Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!

[fisherKing]

I'd use it more if the interface didn't take 2.5 seconds to load every time plus hang the DAW while doing it, that shit gets annoying. But then, I use software music-making tools to prepare my meals, and thus how something feels to use is irrelevant.

Exactly my problem. No other VST I have does that. Sounds awesome but that laggines bugs me lot.

Same here. Native instruments solved this with Massive 1 after 15 years, maybe for Massive X will take faster

MX opens fine here (but it had a lag on my previous intel imac). either way... so what? once it's open, you can make sounds, music. at any rate, that's my priority with a synth plugin: to make sounds, music....

You're oversimplifying the subject.
If you're a composer and need to constantly open your synths to tweak them in order to get where you want your music to be, you need a fast and smooth workflow, to keep the vibe going.
I love Massive X, but since the last update the lag when opening it became bigger, and I started to favor other synths over it, more and more.
I hope they fix it.

i hope they fix it too, but i don't think i'm oversimplifying anything. if i had to wait 2 seconds for a plugin to open, i might be annoyed, but not to the point of abandoning that plugin... if i thought it had value to my work.

[Sinisterbr]

I'd use it more if the interface didn't take 2.5 seconds to load every time plus hang the DAW while doing it, that shit gets annoying. But then, I use software music-making tools to prepare my meals, and thus how something feels to use is irrelevant.

Exactly my problem. No other VST I have does that. Sounds awesome but that laggines bugs me lot.

Same here. Native instruments solved this with Massive 1 after 15 years, maybe for Massive X will take faster

MX opens fine here (but it had a lag on my previous intel imac). either way... so what? once it's open, you can make sounds, music. at any rate, that's my priority with a synth plugin: to make sounds, music....

You're oversimplifying the subject.
If you're a composer and need to constantly open your synths to tweak them in order to get where you want your music to be, you need a fast and smooth workflow, to keep the vibe going.
I love Massive X, but since the last update the lag when opening it became bigger, and I started to favor other synths over it, more and more.
I hope they fix it.

i hope they fix it too, but i don't think i'm oversimplifying anything. if i had to wait 2 seconds for a plugin to open, i might be annoyed, but not to the point of abandoning that plugin... if i thought it had value to my work.

You're not getting my point. Trying waiting 2 seconds (it's actually more) several times, every time you need to tweak it, in a session.
It may not bother you, but it's one heck of a cumulative nuisanse for me (and many others).
If you're ok with the lag, good for you, honestly.

[Geomystery]

It leads me to use less instances in one project. As I wrote, sonically is Massive X very good so I can live with some lagging, but I cannot imagine to have many of them in one project. I often switch between instruments to tweak it here and there.

[fisherKing]

You're not getting my point. Trying waiting 2 seconds (it's actually more) several times, every time you need to tweak it, in a session.
It may not bother you, but it's one heck of a cumulative nuisanse for me (and many others).
If you're ok with the lag, good for you, honestly.

yes, i do get your point, and i understand the issue (again, i had lag opening MX on my previous mac). but i think you're not getting my point; waiting 2 seconds is a nuisance, but (for me anyway) not a deal-breaker, if the synth is worth it.

it's 2 seconds....

[Sinisterbr]

I'll try to revert MX back to v1.4.1 (I'm currently using the latest version). That was the fastest loading version yet for me. It was very acceptable

[Lbdunequest]

I'd use it more if the interface didn't take 2.5 seconds to load every time plus hang the DAW while doing it, that shit gets annoying. But then, I use software music-making tools to prepare my meals, and thus how something feels to use is irrelevant.

Exactly my problem. No other VST I have does that. Sounds awesome but that laggines bugs me lot.

Same here. Native instruments solved this with Massive 1 after 15 years, maybe for Massive X will take faster

MX opens fine here (but it had a lag on my previous intel imac). either way... so what? once it's open, you can make sounds, music. at any rate, that's my priority with a synth plugin: to make sounds, music....

You're oversimplifying the subject.
If you're a composer and need to constantly open your synths to tweak them in order to get where you want your music to be, you need a fast and smooth workflow, to keep the vibe going.
I love Massive X, but since the last update the lag when opening it became bigger, and I started to favor other synths over it, more and more.
I hope they fix it.

Exactly that.

[Bartone]

You're not getting my point. Trying waiting 2 seconds (it's actually more) several times, every time you need to tweak it, in a session.
It may not bother you, but it's one heck of a cumulative nuisanse for me (and many others).
If you're ok with the lag, good for you, honestly.

yes, i do get your point, and i understand the issue (again, i had lag opening MX on my previous mac). but i think you're not getting my point; waiting 2 seconds is a nuisance, but (for me anyway) not a deal-breaker, if the synth is worth it.

it's 2 seconds....

It is just 2 seconds if you open the MX only ONCE in your project.
But it can be 10 x2seconds if you need to open MX 10 times, or 20x2seconds if you need to open it 20 times to fix something in the sounds, make some adjsutments etc. So the 2 seconds lag is only if you open MX only one time, but that usually is not the case if you really want to adjsut the sound.

[fisherKing]

You're not getting my point. Trying waiting 2 seconds (it's actually more) several times, every time you need to tweak it, in a session.
It may not bother you, but it's one heck of a cumulative nuisanse for me (and many others).
If you're ok with the lag, good for you, honestly.

yes, i do get your point, and i understand the issue (again, i had lag opening MX on my previous mac). but i think you're not getting my point; waiting 2 seconds is a nuisance, but (for me anyway) not a deal-breaker, if the synth is worth it.

it's 2 seconds....

It is just 2 seconds if you open the MX only ONCE in your project.
But it can be 10 x2seconds if you need to open MX 10 times, or 20x2seconds if you need to open it 20 times to fix something in the sounds, make some adjsutments etc. So the 2 seconds lag is only if you open MX only one time, but that usually is not the case if you really want to adjsut the sound.

yes, that is how math works

[idoru97214]

Wait. Somebody help me. How many seconds would it be if I needed to open it 36 times?! THEN how many seconds?

[pdxindy]

Wait. Somebody help me. How many seconds would it be if I needed to open it 36 times?! THEN how many seconds?

Only 6 seconds... cause by the 3rd time, you would toss out MX and use one of the many other great sounding synths that do not have it's limitations

[RobGee]

Wait. Somebody help me. How many seconds would it be if I needed to open it 36 times?! THEN how many seconds?

[sQeetz]

First world problems, much?
2 seconds? Scandal!!!!!!

[Vortifex]

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[spacepluk]

I'd use it more if the interface didn't take 2.5 seconds to load every time plus hang the DAW while doing it, that shit gets annoying. But then, I use software music-making tools to prepare my meals, and thus how something feels to use is irrelevant.

Exactly my problem. No other VST I have does that. Sounds awesome but that laggines bugs me lot.

Same here. Native instruments solved this with Massive 1 after 15 years, maybe for Massive X will take faster

+1 to all this. It’s also very noticeable when switching presets in Komplete Kontrol while playing some notes. Every time Massive X has to load you’ll get silence, followed by a sine wave and finally the actual patch a few seconds later. It’s the only synth I own that does that.

[mabian]

Back in my day VST synths were only 50 pixels wide and took three hours to load a preset. You kidz don't know how lucky you are.

And so? Times have changed and nowadays most VSTs around load instantly, so there's definitely a problem at Massive X side and I see nothing ungrateful in simply complaining about it.

- Mario