An open letter to Native Instruments about Massive X. (Petition included!)

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I am disappointed with NI’s development of Massive X and other plugins

I own Native Instruments software that needs some love.
157
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I would like to own Native Instruments software but it needs some love.
12
7%
 
Total votes: 169

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I just changed the world. Good. Carry on.
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zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:14 am There’s a bit of difference between asking for a better browser and polyphonic aftertouch support on a plugin and “changing the world.”
yes, there is. but you need to ask in the right place, and hoping a thread on any forum both catches the attention of NI and gets them to move forward is just... wishful thinking.

anyway, like anyone else on this forum, i stand by what i say. and i'd also like to see MX gets the updates and fixes it needs.
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Evil Dragon likes to infer he's a Native Instruments insider in every thread about the company. Let him deliver the message. :shrug:
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fisherKing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:47 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:14 am There’s a bit of difference between asking for a better browser and polyphonic aftertouch support on a plugin and “changing the world.”
yes, there is. but you need to ask in the right place, and hoping a thread on any forum both catches the attention of NI and gets them to move forward is just... wishful thinking.

anyway, like anyone else on this forum, i stand by what i say. and i'd also like to see MX gets the updates and fixes it needs.
Existence is a wish. We wish to eat, breathe and fu<k. We take actions to make those things happen. Waves decided to go all subscription, but public outcry here made them decide to go back, with subscription as an option, so it’s not like I’m talking crazy. Here is good because NI can’t decide to kick anyone off for complaining. I’m not super optimistic that this will make a change, but it’s not like it costs me money or much time. I’m not standing outside NI’s offices in a picket line all day. (Though that would be a good idea. :lol:) What’s the harm in it?
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zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:47 pm
fisherKing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:47 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:14 am There’s a bit of difference between asking for a better browser and polyphonic aftertouch support on a plugin and “changing the world.”
yes, there is. but you need to ask in the right place, and hoping a thread on any forum both catches the attention of NI and gets them to move forward is just... wishful thinking.

anyway, like anyone else on this forum, i stand by what i say. and i'd also like to see MX gets the updates and fixes it needs.
Existence is a wish. We wish to eat, breathe and fu<k. We take actions to make those things happen. Waves decided to go all subscription, but public outcry here made them decide to go back, with subscription as an option, so it’s not like I’m talking crazy. Here is good because NI can’t decide to kick anyone off for complaining. I’m not super optimistic that this will make a change, but it’s not like it costs me money or much time. I’m not standing outside NI’s offices in a picket line all day. (Though that would be a good idea. :lol:) What’s the harm in it?
there IS no harm in it. if all you want to do is rant, rant away (that's what internet forums are for :D ). but if you want to change things, make a real petition & get it to NI. i''d be happy to sign it :tu:
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...with NI, Izotope, and BX/PA being one company now and with MassiveX, to put it mildly, being an ambivalent (brilliant, half-assed, neglected) development, Absynth and Iris being discontinued, I wouldn't be surprised, if one or more development teams would be working on the next super synth. My hopes for a significant update of MX are very limited and it should speak volumes, that I rather turn to Massive or Pigments than using MX. Up to now it rather seems to be an expansion vehicle for me. So sad, but good to see, I'm not alone with my disappointment about MX...

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>brand of cereal starts to get worse, cereal doesnt taste as good, nutrition is worse.
What should customers of said cereal do?

>talk to each other, vent frustrations, stop buying that brand, find a new brand?
or
>MAKE AN OFFICIAL PETITION using change dot org or Price Waterhouse Cooper AND AND AND contact Oprah and have her validate the petition and then get a notary public to notarize it and hire a celebrity to hand-carry the petition to the cereal brand or... the brand. Will. Ignore. All. Its. Customers.

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tbf, we already had two threads for venting at ni.
nothing said in this one is new, except the cereal stuff, thats new.
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vurt wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:34 pm tbf, we already had two threads for venting at ni.
nothing said in this one is new, except the cereal stuff, thats new.
The intensity of the enshittification of NI and other favorite brands of ours is increasing over time, not decreasing.

Therefore the frequency and intensity of the complaints will also increase until the day that people just stop talking about that brand, which will be the end. Cereal analogies aside, it's simple math.

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Maybe contact some synthfluencers of the youtube sphere and make a buzz about this request list.
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Milkman wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:43 pm The intensity of the enshittification of NI and other favorite brands of ours is increasing over time, not decreasing.

Therefore the frequency and intensity of the complaints will also increase until the day that people just stop talking about that brand, which will be the end. Cereal analogies aside, it's simple math.
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plus word of the day: "enshittification"
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Milkman wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:43 pm it's simple math.
What's the formula for becoming tired of a topic, btw?

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Milkman wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:43 pm
vurt wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:34 pm tbf, we already had two threads for venting at ni.
nothing said in this one is new, except the cereal stuff, thats new.
The intensity of the enshittification of NI and other favorite brands of ours is increasing over time, not decreasing.

Therefore the frequency and intensity of the complaints will also increase until the day that people just stop talking about that brand, which will be the end. Cereal analogies aside, it's simple math.
ah, i get you.
see i was looking at it like a relationship between two parties.
when one party stops doing the things the other enjoys, and you grow apart.

you can stick together and rehash the same old argument daily and be miserable, or move on with your life (choose a new brand) or you could stalk and harass them with complaints till the new partner of theirs ends up poking you in the eye or something equally painful.

im no good with analogies though, always veer off at the end.
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fisherKing wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:59 pm
Milkman wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:43 pm The intensity of the enshittification of NI and other favorite brands of ours is increasing over time, not decreasing.

Therefore the frequency and intensity of the complaints will also increase until the day that people just stop talking about that brand, which will be the end. Cereal analogies aside, it's simple math.
yelling-cloud.gif

plus word of the day: "enshittification"
it's a perfectly cromulent word...
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