If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

[milesdeem]

I started with trackers, used various versions of Cakewalk for years, sometimes FL or Ableton, and now I only use Bitwig.

I played with a Polyend Tracker a few weeks back. Oh man, that relit some nostalgia in me from Amiga days.

I'd successfully forgotten about it until now, I was trawling auction sites and reverb for a few days after to see if I could pick one up cheap, and now you've reminded me again!

Polyend looks pretty cool & fun for sure. I occasionally toy with the idea of getting back into a tracker. Renoise is pretty nice when I briefly used it. Can do some very interesting things in a tracker & a different approach to everything. I just don't think I can go back at this point though, with how far DAWs have come in the ability to easily do the same kinds of things.

[pdxindy]

I don't feel I will look at another DAW ever again because I like its overall quality and it is largely feature-rich enough for me... And then obviously, the modulations features are just unmatched (not even close) by any other tool...

For real, the modulators are unbelievably good, and even make some excellent plugins w/ modulation features unnecessary because it's so easy to modulate parameters in Bitwig. The built in devices are also so good that I probably would not have bothered to buy many of the FX I have bought, if I had Bitwig before.

Bitwig feels to me more like a bridge between a more traditional DAW and Ableton Live, with the best of both.

Bitwig's modulation system is unrivaled. Then combine that with Bitwig's Note Expressions, Operators, and easy use of midi channels and there's nothing else like it. And with the new ability to add modulators at the project level, I can setup some macro knobs that can change and morph the whole project if I want. It's so powerful and fun it feels like cheating

And with the CLAP format, all that Bitwig capability is accessible to CLAP plugins. For me, that has been a game changer since u-he (my most used synths) has adopted CLAP and they are steadily implementing the full capability. Bitwig and u-he have made it so that I wouldn't even think of using another DAW. It's a wrap.

[liquidsound]

I don't feel I will look at another DAW ever again because I like its overall quality and it is largely feature-rich enough for me... And then obviously, the modulations features are just unmatched (not even close) by any other tool...

For real, the modulators are unbelievably good, and even make some excellent plugins w/ modulation features unnecessary because it's so easy to modulate parameters in Bitwig. The built in devices are also so good that I probably would not have bothered to buy many of the FX I have bought, if I had Bitwig before.

Bitwig feels to me more like a bridge between a more traditional DAW and Ableton Live, with the best of both.

Bitwig's modulation system is unrivaled. Then combine that with Bitwig's Note Expressions, Operators, and easy use of midi channels and there's nothing else like it. And with the new ability to add modulators at the project level, I can setup some macro knobs that can change and morph the whole project if I want. It's so powerful and fun it feels like cheating

And with the CLAP format, all that Bitwig capability is accessible to CLAP plugins. For me, that has been a game changer since u-he (my most used synths) has adopted CLAP and they are steadily implementing the full capability. Bitwig and u-he have made it so that I wouldn't even think of using another DAW. It's a wrap.

No really

[BONES]

And yet, there is absolutely nothing in all of that which interests me even slightly. Quite the opposite, it sounds like an absolute f**king nightmare and makes me glad I gave up on Bitwig when I did (at v2). That said, it's good that different DAWs cater to different needs and, if anything, I'd like to see them become even more focused on doing what they do best and not trying to be all things to all people.

[Jac459]

And yet, there is absolutely nothing in all of that which interests me even slightly. Quite the opposite, it sounds like an absolute f**king nightmare and makes me glad I gave up on Bitwig when I did (at v2). That said, it's good that different DAWs cater to different needs and, if anything, I'd like to see them become even more focused on doing what they do best and not trying to be all things to all people.

Well as much as I love bitwig and i fully agree with U-He and bitwig being a blast with CLAP format, i also agree with you that it is not and shouldn't be a one size fit all. It is good to have DAWs specializing at different stuffs.

If I were doing country music i wouldn't be very much interested in bitwig

[syntonica]

If I were doing country music i wouldn't be very much interested in bitwig

Pity. Country music needs something....

[liquidsound]

It’s fair to say bitwigers have a passion for modulations, but I’m not sure that includes music making, but definitely sounds orgy

[Jac459]

If I were doing country music i wouldn't be very much interested in bitwig

Pity. Country music needs something....

A crossover Dolly Parton Skrillex?

[Jac459]

It’s fair to say bitwigers have a passion for modulations, but I’m not sure that includes music making, but definitely sounds orgy

This remark remind me of the eternel story... Jazz was not music, then Rock was evil music then electronic was again not music, and I certainly forget tons of genre like reggae and its infamous delay...

[machinesworking]

And yet, there is absolutely nothing in all of that which interests me even slightly. Quite the opposite, it sounds like an absolute f**king nightmare and makes me glad I gave up on Bitwig when I did (at v2). That said, it's good that different DAWs cater to different needs and, if anything, I'd like to see them become even more focused on doing what they do best and not trying to be all things to all people.

I agree with this to a point, Logic and DP do the whole clip launching thing like Bitwig and Live, but they don't do near enough to make it more than a quarter as useful as what BW and Live do with it.

I've been working in Live lately for a collaboration project and although it has better comping than Bitwig, it still blows compared to DP or Logic when it comes to comping, and especially when it comes to count off, which is only active when recording. So no practice runs through a song etc. essentially you move the entire song over a bar or two, add in some audio clicks and that's IMO never fun if you've automated things.

So IMO they're all guilty of adding in features the other DAWs have, then rushing it, leaving it incomplete, and really a waste of resources. MOTU did this with DP, I loved the idea of them adding in Lives Clips, but they just do not get the whole experience and it's noticeably more convoluted but less powerful than Live or Bitwig. Almost no DP user uses them.

That said, I like an all around DAW, DP and Logic are by far the most feature rich DAWs out there, (queue Reaper users saying you can write a script for it), if you need access to all the paradigms those two cover more bases than the rest, followed slightly by Cubase, Studio One, Reaper, and Sonar.

[liquidsound]

It’s fair to say bitwigers have a passion for modulations, but I’m not sure that includes music making, but definitely sounds orgy

This remark remind me of the eternel story... Jazz was not music, then Rock was evil music then electronic was again not music, and I certainly forget tons of genre like reggae and its infamous delay...

The part you got confused is that all of the above are dealing with defining their relationship to music, while mine clearly stated "not sure that includes music"
But I gave them the advantage of "Sound Orgy" which it could trademark Bitwig productions.
No bad!

[Jac459]

It’s fair to say bitwigers have a passion for modulations, but I’m not sure that includes music making, but definitely sounds orgy

This remark remind me of the eternel story... Jazz was not music, then Rock was evil music then electronic was again not music, and I certainly forget tons of genre like reggae and its infamous delay...

The part you got confused is that all of the above are dealing with defining their relationship to music, while mine clearly stated "not sure that includes music"
But I gave them the advantage of "Sound Orgy" which it could trademark Bitwig productions.
No bad!

I know my friend, but still, by saying not "sure it includes music", you are reacting exactly like the people I heard for so long saying that electronic music wasn't music...

Nevertheless, from a more serious standpoint, I am not myself a fan of dubstep (nor a producer of it) but I would certainly not say it is not music. It definitely is and from a technical standpoint at least it is even pretty good one considering the technicality and difficulty of it (to not have it sound horrible). Bitwig is I think an awesome DAW to do dubstep.

Anyway, I know you meant that as a joke and I am stupid one answering a bit too seriously. So please enjoy your TGIF ! .

[liquidsound]

I know you meant that as a joke

[syntonica]

If I were doing country music i wouldn't be very much interested in bitwig

Pity. Country music needs something....

A crossover Dolly Parton Skrillex?

I think she'd kill it at Dubstep.

[pdxindy]

It’s fair to say bitwigers have a passion for modulations, but I’m not sure that includes music making

All musicians have a passion for modulations... there wouldn't be music otherwise.