Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[TBlake]

Most companies aren't seeking to inconvenience their customers with this kind of nonsense, so it really stands out as unnecessary. Saying it's not that bad or that drive space is cheap completely misses the point. It's frustrating. Almost every other company is doing it better.

No other company charges you to redownload your files after 3 months either. IK really is vile.

[Examigan]

I think that's for the sample content.

Also, I thought Spectrasonics charged a fee. (?)

[cptgone]

I don't understand all the problems about IK, I know everyone has their own way of thinking about it.
All T-racks plugins are available as standalone in any DAW. Only plugins you own appear as standalone in your DAW.

Each and every TR5 plugin (over 50) appears as standalone in Bitwig.
Not just the few I own.

(and yes, the VST3 files are easy to remove - but that requires checking which ones I own, and I'll have to do that over every time I update)

[cptgone]

I just deleted all remaining TR5 vst3 files I don't have a licence for.
It took some doing:

- owned products are not sorted alphabetically at IK's site
- the VST3 file for T-Racks Vintage Tube Compressor/Limiter Model 670 is called TR5 VC-670 (so I had to restore it from the Recycle Bin)
- T-Racks 5 Custom Shop is listed among the owned products, so I wasted time trying to find the corresponding VST3 file
- as my mouse sometimes double-clicks instead of clicking, I had to wait for Cubase to boot (so I could quit it) before I had even started

[cptgone]

Re Space: one VST Dll might be nothing but in most cases it's VST+AU+VST3+AAX.

And a bunch of small files in C:\users\[...]\Documents\IK Multimedia.

If I'm not mistaken, luckily, the vst/au/aax are an option while installing.

[cptgone]

Yes, but individually each of those unnecessary crap plugins is so small, and drive space is so cheap now. /s

It installs it on your primary HD. While it's often (not always, if you're using a laptop) possible to swap that out for something higher capacity, it's a hassle.

My plugins folder is on my secondary drive and that's where my T-Racks dll files end up.

Not an option for VST3 users, AFAIK.

[Examigan]

I just tried installing the Lurssen Mastering VST3 this morning to my 2nd drive (where the other plugins are) and it shows up along with the VST2 version as a choice in Cakewalk. I haven't tried it with all the others, but at least that works from here.

[Dazd_N_Confuzd]

Re Space: one VST Dll might be nothing but in most cases it's VST+AU+VST3+AAX.

And a bunch of small files in C:\users\[...]\Documents\IK Multimedia.

If I'm not mistaken, luckily, the vst/au/aax are an option while installing.

Don't forget the almost 2 gigs worth of files that IK dumps here:

"C:\Program Files\IK Multimedia\T-RackS 5"

So even if you remove unwanted .dll/.vst3 files, you can't touch the files in the above location. Although it seems a lot of users aren't even aware of these large files in the first place.

[revvy]

If somebody who's been on KVR for 7 years says "I don't understand all the problems about IK" then it's probably not worth explaining the details yet again.

For me IK are very nice instruments and effects, wrapped up in terrible marketing decisions.

[koho]

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So even if you remove unwanted .dll/.vst3 files, you can't touch the files in the above location. Although it seems a lot of users aren't even aware of these large files in the first place.
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Thanks for the heads up, I just deleted gigabytes worth of that crap from my HD.

[lotus2035]

EDIT: Has been grabbed.

Don't need this.
As they say in Sverige, Varsågod.
Just let me know if you take it.
Don't be a stingy f*ck and try to sell it later.

FREE IK Multimedia T-RackS Tape Machine 80 Serial Number
TCS43-59RSADAS-77399

[fsoares]

If somebody who's been on KVR for 7 years says "I don't understand all the problems about IK" then it's probably not worth explaining the details yet again.

For me IK are very nice instruments and effects, wrapped up in terrible marketing decisions.

I am sorry for my stupid post, I will try not to bother you again.

[elxsound]

If somebody who's been on KVR for 7 years says "I don't understand all the problems about IK" then it's probably not worth explaining the details yet again.

For me IK are very nice instruments and effects, wrapped up in terrible marketing decisions.

I am sorry for my stupid post, I will try not to bother you again.

If any of us have to worry about the occasional grumpy posts or occasional grumpy posters then none of us would post anything.

Sorry Revvy!

[revvy]

If somebody who's been on KVR for 7 years says "I don't understand all the problems about IK" then it's probably not worth explaining the details yet again.

For me IK are very nice instruments and effects, wrapped up in terrible marketing decisions.

I am sorry for my stupid post, I will try not to bother you again.

If any of us have to worry about the occasional grumpy posts or occasional grumpy posters then none of us would post anything.

Sorry Revvy!

Grumpy? Moi? All sweetness and light from me

[Uncle E]

Stay safe, Koby!