KVR Audio

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:32 pm

dubguy99 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:19 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:35 am
Uncle E wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:10 am Galaxy was good for the time, never great, and certainly nothing special now 15 years later. EP-34, OTOH, is fantastic but I don’t think it’s native yet.
The EP-34 is great fun. IK have a version of that too which isn't bad at all, but there's more control with the UAD version.

I only just realised that there's an awful lot of plugins that UAD still haven't ported to native, I thought they'd made faster progress than this. Have they said anything about a roadmap?

(Here's the list that is currently UADx - https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl ... UAD-Spark- )
Their schedule is porting "1-2 plugins every 4-6 weeks".

There is no roadmap.

They’ve said on the UAD forum, 3 ports coming in November, along with 1 new thing.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:38 pm

noiseboyuk wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:35 am
Uncle E wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:10 am Galaxy was good for the time, never great, and certainly nothing special now 15 years later. EP-34, OTOH, is fantastic but I don’t think it’s native yet.
The EP-34 is great fun. IK have a version of that too which isn't bad at all, but there's more control with the UAD version.

I only just realised that there's an awful lot of plugins that UAD still haven't ported to native, I thought they'd made faster progress than this. Have they said anything about a roadmap?

(Here's the list that is currently UADx - https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl ... UAD-Spark- )

I don’t have access to EP-34, but have you compared it to Softube’s Tape Echoes?

I only have IK Tape Echo, but Softube covers the Echoplex sound very well (as far as I can tell, never having used a real Echoplex) and is more flexible. I deleted IK Tape Echo in favor of Softube.

Had a been fun stemming from this video here:

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:45 pm

I'm also back in UAD land

It's fun to be able to use the UAD plugins again after so many years. I also bought the Essential Bundle and that certainly won't be the last plugin....
Well, I'd be lying if I said I really needed these plugins.... But it's always good to have a few more options. I think it could replace some Waves stuff and maybe Slate (I'm still testing Oxide against VTM).

I loved the UAD1 but the poor performance despite 2 DSP cards just wasn't an option for me to rely on UAD in the future. But I hope UA will find a good way between interesting offers to reach more users but also not to give away the plugins below value.
The way Plugin Alliance is doing this I think is terrible. Selling plugins for $300 and then giving them away for $50 on a regular basis is actually a kick in the butt for the users who paid the high price.

On a side note, no problem with iLok or UA connect.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:57 pm

I grabbed the freebie, but, yeah, every additional plugin manager which is required to install plugins is really one too much these days...

Wished they would offer single installers like others.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:59 pm

Did I just complain about free stuff? Think I did.

seangm · Post by **seangm** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:13 pm

If you have the free LA2A you can upgrade to the full LA2A collection for $28 on Plugin Discounts:

https://plugindiscounts.com/product/uni ... n-upgrade/

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:20 pm

seangm wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:13 pm If you have the free LA2A you can upgrade to the full LA2A collection for $28 on Plugin Discounts:

https://plugindiscounts.com/product/uni ... n-upgrade/

Or scrape together a few more $$ and get that plus a lot more for $50.

dremin · Post by **dremin** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:35 pm

but the $50 essentials bundle still requires ilok cloud or dongle, am i right?

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:28 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:57 pm I grabbed the freebie, but, yeah, every additional plugin manager which is required to install plugins is really one too much these days...

Wished they would offer single installers like others.

It’s gotten out of control. It’s not bad if you use one company but it’s a bit painful when you only use one plugin from a developer that requires their own plugin manager.

beely · Post by **beely** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:28 pm

dremin wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:35 pm but the $50 essentials bundle still requires ilok cloud or dongle, am i right?

Sure, just like *all* the other UADx plugins, including the LA-2A Collection.

it's only the free LA-2A that supports machine authorisation.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:43 pm

elxsound wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:28 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:57 pm I grabbed the freebie, but, yeah, every additional plugin manager which is required to install plugins is really one too much these days...

Wished they would offer single installers like others.
It’s gotten out of control. It’s not bad if you use one company but it’s a bit painful when you only use one plugin from a developer that requires their own plugin manager.

Exactly. I just checked, and, I already have 7 license/activation managers on my system. And 2 or 3 download managers which are necessary for some audio software as well.

I get it, when you have several plugins from a company, it's very tedious to install all the single plugins or sounds (I have the case with Native Instruments, Komplete, and the single plugins I have from them), but, the downside is to have to install all those additional manager software.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:37 pm

The synth "Polymax" is also very nice. Somehow a combination of Juno, Jupiter, Oberheim, whatever. And totally easy to use and needs very little processing power. Does the Polymax have anything to do with the Opal synthesizer?

I have replaced some plugins in a test project with UAD and I would even say that they need a little less processing power, so they are programmed very efficiently. Overall I think the UAD plugins are definitely worth it (and that was actually the question in the thread).

This is the small test project

...and this is how it sounds (mostly Ana2, Serum, Dune, Repro, Synthmaster, Polymax and the UAD FX: Fairchild, Oxide, LA2A Silver, Pultec, Galaxy Tape Echo
UAD Dance

heyheycnv · Post by **heyheycnv** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:22 pm

It's a pain with UA Connect going between two different computers. Ilok cloud is not a favorite. I've gotten "restart daw" messages on UA Connect amongst others. Typically need to reauthorize the set every time I go from one to another even though Ilok claims I have two authorizations available.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:41 pm

I just added the licenses to a hardware dongle iLok and deleted the connect app. The app is really bad and constantly kept popping up it's window, even in the middle of mixing.

beely · Post by **beely** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:17 pm

heyheycnv wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:22 pm It's a pain with UA Connect going between two different computers. Ilok cloud is not a favorite. I've gotten "restart daw" messages on UA Connect amongst others. Typically need to reauthorize the set every time I go from one to another even though Ilok claims I have two authorizations available.

You only have one iLok Cloud session on your iLok account, regardless of which computer you are using. Think of your iLok Cloud session as an "internet dongle". If you want to use two activations, activate one to iLok Cloud, and one to a dongle, and put the dongle on your second machine.

You can't activate one plugin twice to your iLok Cloud session, just as you can't activate one plugin twice to a single USB dongle.

In the case of dongles, you can can activate one plugin to two different dongles, but with iLok Cloud, you can't "add another Cloud session", you only get one per account (as it's a server resource.)

Hope that makes how iLok works a little more clear.

UAD still worth it?