RapidComposer v5 beta feedback and discussion

[BluGenes]

^I would like to view the Rhythm Lab video when ready.
Are there any other RC5 videos available?

For the most part, most of the V4 videos still apply. I'll add new ones as I can, as it takes a lot of time to make them.

this is the link to the video from Tips and Tricks area were all the videos get posted..
viewtopic.php?p=8772927#p8772927

[Musical Gym]

^thank you

[sj1]

Hi.

RC offers (for example, in the Rhythm Lab) the operation "Preview Phrase in the Composition with All Unmuted Tracks". This is very convenient!

RC - Preview Phrase in Composition 01.jpg

I notice though that plugins which normally run and sound "on their own" according to the transport/clock (e.g. Jamstix, for drums) are silent in this case. I speculate that with the master transport not running, clock info is not being provided to those plugins which need it.

It would be helpful if "Preview Phrase in Composition with All Unmuted Tracks" worked in all cases.

Thanks.

[lovemusic15]

Which rhythm generator allows the melody generator to start the bar with a rest (when regenerating, not manually edited)? What about inserting rests between some random notes? Most seem not to do it (is this a bug or is there a setting somewhere?)

I tried using the remove note variation but regenerating the melody generator does not randomize the seed or how many notes are being removed.

How do you properly generate a melody with rests that matches the chords and scale?

Yea, you can do that with the Rhythm Lab.. I just finished a video about using it, should have it uploaded in a little while..

Hi BluGenes Thank you for uploading the video. Unfortunately, this "Rhythm Lab" is still missing the key elements I was hoping to find. After reading a couple of posts, I can see that other users are also requesting the opportunity to add rests between notes. I understand that you're planning to create another video and have found some workarounds in rhythm processing. However, after using RC for a couple of years, I've tried every combination to achieve the results I'm looking for with syncopation and rests, but it's just not possible to get the results I require. After several posts attempting to describe what is needed, I have decided to come up with a mock-up version of what is required in the rhythm processing section and Rhythm Lab. What I'm asking for is a standard feature in every other MIDI software, so it's genuinely necessary in this software. I hope the picture will be self-explanatory, but basically, it needs to have the option to decide how many rests and the size of each rest you would like to generate. Syncopation is key in various genres, so giving users the ability to determine the gaps and rests they want is essential. Please feel free, everybody, to review the picture and let me know if there's anything you don't understand or if you believe anything else is needed.

Attila, please check this out. I will also send it to you as an email. would appreciate it if you could update this rhythm processing and Rhythm Lab with my suggestions, as they are much needed.

[Musical Gym]

Can Rhythm Lab changes be applied to selected bars rather than all bars?

[sj1]

While the topic is Rhythm Lab, I wonder if someone who feels they are very clear on it could state in words what the relationship(s) is(are) between the Phrase/Notes with which you enter the RL, the operations the RL performs, and the final results you can get out of it.

I see a great deal of variational power in RL, as evidenced by things changing when params are changed and lightning is clicked, but so far, I don't understand what's actually going on. (My bad!)

[sj1]

A partial restatement of my question might be:

What remains invariant in a Phrase as it is processed first once, and then repeatedly thru Rhythm Lab?

[BluGenes]

Can Rhythm Lab changes be applied to selected bars rather than all bars?

no, each phrase has an independent rhythm..

[Musical Gym]

Can Rhythm Lab changes be applied to selected bars rather than all bars?

no, each phrase has an independent rhythm..

Can a phrase be one bar long?

[BluGenes]

For rhythm lab, it's all about the weights. If you always want a rest between a spot in the phrase, you just set the weight of that spot to zero. As it is, if there is any slight numerical weight, depending on the length settings used for the rhythm, a note would be generated.

By clicking a weight and dragging, you will also see a info box with the values from 0 to 127. So any weighted value above 0 will use a note for that spot.

Another factor is two settings you need to use for rests "expectedness @ %50", and "no change" for the note length in Rhythm Processing. Once you go through all this trouble to set it up like that in Rhythm lab, you basically just set up a manual rhythm anyways, if you think about it.

The intention of Rhythm Lab really, is to generate randomized rhythm based on probabilities. A predictable rest isn't really random, in my opinion.

I am not saying anything shouldn't change, I am just stating what I see, as it is now. I think it's probably a "not really fully understanding how to use it" problem and understanding the limitations and why they are, like they are.

[BluGenes]

Can Rhythm Lab changes be applied to selected bars rather than all bars?

no, each phrase has an independent rhythm..

Can a phrase be one bar long?

yes

[Musical Gym]

Can Rhythm Lab changes be applied to selected bars rather than all bars?

no, each phrase has an independent rhythm..

Can a phrase be one bar long?

yes

Thanks, I appreciate your response and the other help you're giving us.

[xbitz]

Hi,

the app(using the LE version) cannot be launched in Logic as a MIDIFX (instant crash on macbookproM1 with both native and rosette mode, 13.0 and Sonoma 14.0, Logic 10.7.5 and 10.7.9) and it doesn't pass through the space to the host under Bitwig. Furthermore, the undo drops the scale and reverts to the default value





affects the loading too


Cubase, resizing doesn't work


Studio One more or less works but crashes the app after couple minutes

5.02LE version

[lovemusic15]

I am not saying anything shouldn't change, I am just stating what I see, as it is now. I think it's probably a "not really fully understanding how to use it" problem and understanding the limitations and why they are, like they are.
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I appreciate this comment about saying it as you see it. I think it's important for everybody to get the best out of a feature in a software and if it doesn't give us the desired result we should be able to post opinions on how we think it could be better. Especially considering Attila isn't a producer so he cannot always appreciate the workflow that each individual May require.

I feel that having the little additions features to the Rhythm lab and rhythm process like I've posted previously is definitely needed to make it more user-friendly and for people to get the results they want within a couple of clicks rather than all this manual editing.
I feel it's important that a software gives you unexpected happy accidents as well as being able to manipulate the results you want

I hope Attila can add the features I've requested as I feel they would benefit every user

[BluGenes]

Ok, let us do this.. I need to know that I am on the same page as every one else about this. So, I am doing a very short video were I show how I do syncopation with rests using Rhythm Lab. Anyways, it's based on what I know about this. Maybe, just maybe, I am not understanding what problem you guys are presenting to what I know. Maybe I am misunderstanding something. Watch it, then let me know if I have it wrong or not. I'll have it very soon..