VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[Gam456]

Sound design question

I own a Novation Summit, my fav modulation is the noise source.

Is it possible to use an osc with noise and modulate the pitch of second osc and the cut off ?
So far I don't see the osc freq as a source of modulation

[simmo75]

I wonder if it’s just Ableton Live.
It’s unusable here with all the spikes.
I’d ask for a refund if I could…
Non of my other plugins have this issue.

Atlatnesiti above having no issues in Ableton.

What's your soundcard and buffer size?

I use a Presonus Studiolive 32r at 256

[noiseboyuk]

I wonder if it’s just Ableton Live.
It’s unusable here with all the spikes.
I’d ask for a refund if I could…
Non of my other plugins have this issue.

Atlatnesiti above having no issues in Ableton.

What's your soundcard and buffer size?

I use a Presonus Studiolive 32r at 256

Thanks - buffer size not an issue then.

[simmo75]

I wonder if it’s just Ableton Live.
It’s unusable here with all the spikes.
I’d ask for a refund if I could…
Non of my other plugins have this issue.

Atlatnesiti above having no issues in Ableton.

What's your soundcard and buffer size?

I use a Presonus Studiolive 32r at 256

Thanks - buffer size not an issue then.

I have zero issues with any plugins on my system, just Avenger 2.

[aMUSEd]

Buffer size, host and patch seem irrelevant - as I said (and if you watch the video I posted) I have had this with an init patch, not playing a note either recorded or live. Once the spiking and clicking starts the only solution I have found is a reboot, even switching hosts makes no difference. Reboot clears it up for a while. Can't find anything that triggers it directly but certainly if I take focus away from the host by clicking onto another virtual desktop that can make it worse - maybe there's still a memory leak?

[noiseboyuk]

I have zero issues with any plugins on my system, just Avenger 2.

Indeed, you said. Sucks. Many of us - some with very similar specs to you - don't have your issues, and there hasn't been a single common factor that has been isolated. I think at this point there's little the forum can do to help other than get a little solidarity from others who have the issue.

I get the need for those affected to howl in to to the void, but I do find it odd that, thus far, I cannot recall one single person with spiking issues having said that, yes, they have contacted support. Still less what their response has been.

I've raised it a lot of times as well - not one single confirmation that they have contacted support. Why?

[miloszz]

What is your DAW? Buffer settings?

Ableton, 64, doesn't matter. Changing buffer size, the CPU spikes are still present with the GUI open.

[noiseboyuk]

What is your DAW? Buffer settings?

Ableton, 64, doesn't matter. Changing buffer size, the CPU spikes are still present with the GUI open.

OK, same question to you and Amused that I asked in the post above. With no common factor to distinguish your specs with others who have no problem, have you contacted support? If not, why not?

[miloszz]

I've raised it a lot of times as well - not one single confirmation that they have contacted support. Why?

Because the developer is here saying it's no big deal and to stop 'obsessing' about spikes? That indicates to me that he isn't concerned with fixing the issue.

[aMUSEd]

Just as an example here is Phase plant open in Logic with a fairly intensive patch, no notes playing (in fact keyboard is off) - the CPU is pretty steady, but as soon as I switch to Avenger 2 I get these random spikes peaking to over 100% in some cases, every few seconds. Seems maybe a bit less with the GUI closed but still getting some - this is just with the init patch but I switched to the Acid one being used for comparison just to show that the patch is not the issue, the patch has no effect on the behaviour either positively or negatively.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6oz1ulenh24j ... 9.mov?dl=0

[noiseboyuk]

I've raised it a lot of times as well - not one single confirmation that they have contacted support. Why?

Because the developer is here saying it's no big deal and to stop 'obsessing' about spikes? That indicates to me that he isn't concerned with fixing the issue.

Contact them anyway. You paid for it and it's not working properly. How long does it take to do?

Ok, I'm done trying to help anyone with this issue. I think it's proven pretty conclusively that there are users with every possible configuration that have zero problems. If these people (including me) are getting spikes it doesn't matter, it performs just fine in use.

So it's entirely over you who do have problems to help yourselves and

CONTACT FRIGGIN SUPPORT.

[miloszz]

OK, same question to you and Amused that I asked in the post above. With no common factor to distinguish your specs with others who have no problem, have you contacted support? If not, why not?

There is a common factor, though - every person still reporting these spikes is using an Apple Silicon CPU.

Why not contact support? Because it's a well-known issue discussed even before V2. There's no point in contacting support for a non-unique issue, particularly when the developer is publicly dismissing the issue.

[miloszz]

Ok, I'm done trying to help anyone with this issue.

You're not helping anyone with the issue - it's pretty obvious that it isn't a user-error or system configuration problem.

I've got it sitting open on a patch unplayed in Ableton right now as I type this with the GUI open - I can watch the CPU monitor spike regularly to 200%+ while literally nothing is happening to it.

[X-cytr]

im located in Germany... how i remeber Manuel shouldnt be far away from me... if the team is interested that i come over with my macbook... i could do that! like aMused said... i also have this with an init patch sometimes... that sucks really.
if Manuel and his Team take this serious... contact me i can come over. i use Vengeance Plugs over 10 years... but never had this kind of issue... and at the moment its the only plug in my system that makes trouble..

[noiseboyuk]

There is a common factor, though - every person still reporting these spikes is using an Apple Silicon CPU.

Nope. Some windows users also report problems. And I have an M2 macbook with no issues.

I'll confess there IS a common factor though, and that's no-one with issues

CONTACTS FRIGGIN SUPPORT