VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[noiseboyuk]

No, as far as i understand asio guard, it will prerender all the non selected tracks, so a test with it enabled is completely useless.

...but its been established that the problem is with live tracks. So ASIOguard isn't relevant, because it is not used in live tracks.

Also see next reply.

[noiseboyuk]

Why are you on such a mission?

Truly, I don't know any more.

I started this thread because information was scattered to the four winds. Thought it would be useful to have it in one place, I like to help rather than just moan. After release, Manuel decided to not start a new thread, so this one has rumbled on.

Avenger 2 is working great here. I have no skin in the spikes game. But I thought it might be helpful to try and track down common factors - as I say, I like to help. We've had reports of issues across OSs and DAWs, but no easily identifiable common factors, so we're kind of at the limit of how useful a forum can be.

Manuel has repeatedly said that tech issues go through support - he is not support and he can't do support through forums. Yet for some reason, none of you want to do it - just one person has said they've tried, and that was a long time ago. Instead, you demand that he follows every post on this thread and start DMing everyone with an issue.

In the meantime, Manuel has said that the spike thing is an obsession, when it's clearly a serious problem for some.

So at this point - fair enough. A pox on all your houses. Whatever help I was trying to provide is clearly counterproductive, so I'll leave y'all to it.

Live is, as well all know, too short.

[Hanz Meyzer]

I have no skin in the spikes game.

Sorry, but you don't even know if Avenger 2 is also spiking on your machine. Might be neglectable, if you have a 16 core monster or so and enable asio guard, but this does not help all the other people having nasty spikes and not using asio guard (e.g. using Bitwig).

[zvenx]

And once again proving:
No good deed goes unpunished.

rsp

[cb8rwh]

Dear me, noiseboy is trying to help out with this issue, despite not having the issue themselves, and they are just getting grief. People are strange.

[Introspective]

Dear me, noiseboy is trying to help out with this issue, despite not having the issue themselves, and they are just getting grief. People are strange.

welcome to the internet.

[Jac459]

Is there a button for All FX = Off?
I turn off all fx one by one including master fx and I still get that ever-present delay.
Why so much delay?

Search on the insert effects, there is many many places

[Musical Gym]

Is there a button for All FX = Off?
I turn off all fx one by one including master fx and I still get that ever-present delay.
Why so much delay?

Search on the insert effects, there is many many places

So no one button to turn off all fx?

[zvenx]

Dear me, noiseboy is trying to help out with this issue, despite not having the issue themselves, and they are just getting grief. People are strange.

Lol.. Indeed..
Like I said.. no good deed goes unpunished.
rsp

[Jac459]

Is there a button for All FX = Off?
I turn off all fx one by one including master fx and I still get that ever-present delay.
Why so much delay?

Search on the insert effects, there is many many places

So no one button to turn off all fx?

Not that I know of

[Musical Gym]

Is there a button for All FX = Off?
I turn off all fx one by one including master fx and I still get that ever-present delay.
Why so much delay?

Search on the insert effects, there is many many places

So no one button to turn off all fx?

Not that I know of

I asked Andre for one.

[miloszz]

Dear me, noiseboy is trying to help out with this issue, despite not having the issue themselves, and they are just getting grief. People are strange.

Perhaps because repeatedly yelling EMAIL SUPPORT reads as far more dismissive than helpful - "go tell it to the support team that's already publicly aware of the issue (and keep it off the thread)" sounds like "don't harsh the buzz, man."

The proposed tests are irrelevant to the issue that people are repeatedly raising - it's not an issue of overall CPU usage or how many instances can be loaded.

[zvenx]

So what is relevant? what is the deciding factor to determine who has the spikes and who doesn't?
rsp

[miloszz]

So what is relevant? what is the deciding factor to determine who has the spikes and who doesn't?
rsp

There aren't relevant tests - users can run tests to figure out user-error and user system-configurable issues, it's clearly neither. The people who can actually run useful diagnostics are the developers who have access to the code and debugging tools, not forum users.

They're already aware of the issue - cf. 'don't be spike obsessive' and 'it's not happening on our machine.' All users can do is state that it's still happening - if anything, public pressure brought by having that status in the open is more useful than a private e-mail to support.

[zvenx]

I beta test for well over 10 companies.

First to fix an issue developers have to reproduce the issue 95/100 times.. some bugs can be fixed without repro but that is not the norm.

Secondly the better the repro steps the better the chances of the developers being able to isolate the issue.

Thirdly and most importantly, all this info has to get to the developer.
Unlike u-he and a few others, vengeance does not have an official forum here on kvr.
By far the best way to get to the developer, rene is thru email.

This thread may isolate what those that have the issues may have in common.
Not everyone has the issue.
I had it when i had an intel mac, since i switched to apple silicon it is more or less a non entity. But i have read some people with apple silicon have the issue.
Why do i not have it and others do? Threads like this may show data why.

Staying on kvr and bitching about the issue which has been happening for years with avenger 1 clearly is not working towards a solution.
Vengeance has one established route of reporting issues. It isnt bitching on kvr, it is emailing support.
rsp