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pljones wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:07 pm The biggest reason I use Reaper as my main DAW these days is screen real estate management - I use about 80+ tracks with inter-track routing. Being able to completely collapse tracks in the sequencer is great (I don't really use the sequencer). Admittedly, I had to create custom mixer racks to get the details I wanted... But sometimes, you really do want a very, very minimal view - name, level, couple of buttons. (Really, I'd like to stack multiple mixer panes... Reaper isn't quite that flexible...)
My 2 biggies with reaper is I want to be able to place a Plugin at the end of an FX list, with empty FX slots before it so I can set summing templates that are meant to sit at the end of the FX 9which MuLab does very well), and the ability to input text into fields in non UI plugins... SUCH an oversight.

But Reaper is the king for mixing duties for me by far... There's always something that can be better/ more to my liking, that's what a creative mind does, creates something, then improves it IMO.

MuLab is my current Production goto, hope I can keep with it until it sticks... Great little Software.

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Michael L wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:25 pm For me, “don’t have to think” is not better. Difficulty builds connections in brains. Good software features challenge me to think harder and be more creative.
Then you shouldn't be using software! You should be using hardware, it's definitely more challenging for the brain.

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viceverser wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:46 pm
dayvyg wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:52 pm Yes, there would be a bit of a sacrifice in real estate but I think it could be fairly negligible. Anyway, I won't go on about it.
A toggleable option to show track names on collapse would give the option but not force it on those who prefer real estate... My belief is the answer lies in the customizability of workflow for all users while keeping it unique... SUPER hard and awesome to see the MuLab DEV takling it a bit more each time... I would love for nested racks to show nested and framed within a track rack (and a Nest safe frame for MUX front panels to encourage more front panel design)... and be collapseable like in Ableton/Bitwig... This would really differentiate Mux's and Modules I feel, but Of course, this is a paradigm MuLab might have other future answers for, but it's a usability I often miss when Using MuLab, But NOT a deal breaker, and I love a LOT of what's there.

We are hopefully helping inspire the Dev with our lofty and self serving requests, for me it comes from a genuine desire to have this DAW become better and more adoptable so we can have a larger group of people chipping in to grow it, like with MuLib.

My 2c, :wink:
viceverser, I like how you think. I was going to mention an optional name preference for collapsed racks but figured Jo may not be interested at all and don't want to belabour the point.

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viceverser wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
pljones wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:07 pm The biggest reason I use Reaper as my main DAW these days is screen real estate management - I use about 80+ tracks with inter-track routing. Being able to completely collapse tracks in the sequencer is great (I don't really use the sequencer). Admittedly, I had to create custom mixer racks to get the details I wanted... But sometimes, you really do want a very, very minimal view - name, level, couple of buttons. (Really, I'd like to stack multiple mixer panes... Reaper isn't quite that flexible...)
My 2 biggies with reaper is I want to be able to place a Plugin at the end of an FX list, with empty FX slots before it so I can set summing templates that are meant to sit at the end of the FX 9which MuLab does very well), and the ability to input text into fields in non UI plugins... SUCH an oversight.
I use Reaper as well but am unsure what you mean by this. Care to elaborate? You've piqued my interest.

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sl23 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:17 pm
Michael L wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:25 pm For me, “don’t have to think” is not better. Difficulty builds connections in brains. Good software features challenge me to think harder and be more creative.
Then you shouldn't be using software! You should be using hardware, it's definitely more challenging for the brain.
Totally true!
I'll do it tomorrow.
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;) good lad!
Dont forget to chuck yer cooker out too! :lol:

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sl23 wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:47 am ;) good lad!
Dont forget to chuck yer cooker out too! :lol:
I did that long ago.
Made me the genius I am today.
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dayvyg wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:27 pm
viceverser wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pm
pljones wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:07 pm The biggest reason I use Reaper as my main DAW these days is screen real estate management - I use about 80+ tracks with inter-track routing. Being able to completely collapse tracks in the sequencer is great (I don't really use the sequencer). Admittedly, I had to create custom mixer racks to get the details I wanted... But sometimes, you really do want a very, very minimal view - name, level, couple of buttons. (Really, I'd like to stack multiple mixer panes... Reaper isn't quite that flexible...)
My 2 biggies with reaper is I want to be able to place a Plugin at the end of an FX list, with empty FX slots before it so I can set summing templates that are meant to sit at the end of the FX 9which MuLab does very well), and the ability to input text into fields in non UI plugins... SUCH an oversight.
I use Reaper as well but am unsure what you mean by this. Care to elaborate? You've piqued my interest.
Basically if I use A summing Encode/Decode plugin pair like Airwindows "Console" plugins, then I would want the "Channel" encoder at the end of my channel, and All of my FX work for that channel would go before that final encoder plugin... So as it is now the plugins have to cascade, so there is no fx slots before a plugin... You have to make a new plugin at the end of the chain then drag it before the 2nd last plugin so they swap places... It seems like a little thing until you've done it a few hundred times in a few mixes and it becomes INCREDDIBLY GRATING to say the least, the other is if you add a non UI plugin... Again use any of the Airwindows plugins with tweakable parameters, and if you want to type in an exact number in an input field, it doesn't allow you to, you have to try and use shift and the sliders to fumble your way to a precise setting... NOT FUN after a few hundred times... In the JS non UI plugins this is possible. but not in others like VST/VST3/CLAP... So very frustrating... But again, There's probably many things far more important than my little frustrations, and what seems like a simple thing to do (particularly the input field option for non UI plugins) might have some rather difficult knock on effects I'm totally unaware of (Being not a Dev, I'm well aware of my ignorance in such things)... So I just sigh and hope one day it will become more requested by others to require some attention.

Hope that made more sense... Fingers crossed eh :)

Cheers... D

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Okay, I get what you mean now. I dabbled in Airwindows console at one point. Thanks for the explanation. :tu:

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viceverser wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:25 pmif you want to type in an exact number in an input field, it doesn't allow you to, you have to try and use shift and the sliders to fumble your way to a precise setting... NOT FUN after a few hundred times... In the JS non UI plugins this is possible. but not in others like VST/VST3/CLAP... So very frustrating...
This is where MuLab Plugin can help -- for each of these plugins, create a single MuLab Plugin patch with a UI with inputs you want to use, the way you want to use them. You only need do this once - each time you'd have put the original plugin into a track, use the MuLab Plugin wrapper and you get the enhanced UI.

(Every one of my Reaper tracks contains a single plugin -- MuLab Plugin. It's in there I do the work for that track -- I only use Reaper for holding all the tracks on the screen at ones in a condensed, custom view, and the inter-track routing (which I could do in MuLab but without the track view).)

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