TAL-Pha Released! Alpha Juno II Emulation from TAL-Software

[BONES]

It's an alpha juno emu , why compare it to a sem ?

Because they are both synthesisers and they mostly get used for exactly the same shit.

DCo versus vco
mono versus poly
etc..
And...it has added features not found on the original
-osc sync
-osc detune
-sharper reso .

Yet despite all that, still far less useful and/or versatile. Which is my point. It's just a simple synth with a few extra bits that won't extend its usefulness at all. e.g. What is the point of osc sync or detune in a synth with just one oscillator? What are you going to detune it against and why? What are you going to sync it to? It's a nothing synth, which is at least staying true to the original, I suppose.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I think maybe I thought the alpha was digital. Or Hybrid or something. Fully analog with all those buttons eh? Huh.

[osofaux]

I think maybe I thought the alpha was digital. Or Hybrid or something. Fully analog with all those buttons eh? Huh.

Perhaps Roland wanted it to look like a digital synth after the success of the DX7? I don't think those membrane buttons and alpha dial did its legacy any favors, that's for sure. Not nearly as inviting as its prior Juno siblings.

[vitocorleone123]

This one didn't do anything for me and the CPU usage can be atrocious. Maybe I'll try it again in 6-12 months after it's been patched several times.

[kmonkey]

I tried this on a 2-year-old Asus notebook (Ryzen, 15w), on my I7 desktop (6 years old, can't remember the name) and on Ryzen 8700G desktop with inbuilt graphics.

CPU is as with any other synth. Ableton, Reason or Cubase. Just fine. Under fine, I mean I don't even care. Much better than Softube for example. In the line of U-he etc. There is nothing to be patched.

On what kind of ancient crap you are trying to run this software? Uninstall Zoom, Windows Booster, and Windows Cleaners, do not apply any "recommended" settings, and do not run on 386khz with 6 sample ASIO buffers and you will be fine.

Ignore people who have weird configurations - this synth is awesome and there is nothing to worry about. Enjoy it,

[kmonkey]

And both the interface and the sound are pretty awesome!!!!!!!

[uselessmind]

There is nothing to be patched.

How do you know that ?
Based on you post you only ran this on a small number of hardware configurations.

Runs perfectly fine for me on an old 3700x so far. Does not mean it could not have some performance related bugs.

[Septic Underground]

short demo:
https://soundcloud.com/septicstudio/sep ... ound-alpha

[noiseboyuk]

What is the point of osc sync or detune in a synth with just one oscillator? What are you going to detune it against and why? What are you going to sync it to?

In case you are actually interested in the answers to your own questions, Matt Bowdler explains how it works at around 8.20 in this video and you can hear what it sounds like.



Conceptually I do still find this a bit tricky to get my head around. It really does behave like a two oscillator synth in some ways. You can hear, not in sync mode, Matt press the octave button and there's two distinct tones an octave apart.

I guess that what is happening is that the single DCO simitaneously can generate two shapes internally and mathematically combine them to be one (?)

[liquidsound]

What is the point of osc sync or detune in a synth with just one oscillator? What are you going to detune it against and why? What are you going to sync it to?

In case you are actually interested in the answers to your own questions, Matt Bowdler explains how it works at around 8.20 in this video and you can hear what it sounds like.



Conceptually I do still find this a bit tricky to get my head around. It really does behave like a two oscillator synth in some ways. You can hear, not in sync mode, Matt press the octave button and there's two distinct tones an octave apart.

I guess that what is happening is that the single DCO simitaneously can generate two shapes internally and mathematically combine them to be one (?)

At 8:05 he says “sync the TWO Oscillators”…

[egbert101]

Nice history lesson on the Juno synths and the DCO for those interested:

[dellboy]

This synth has only one oscillator, and I can see the viewpoint that it restricts its ability to make certain "fat" sounds. But in the scheme of things,does it matter that much? For instance, how many oscillators do instruments in an orchestra have? As far as I understand it, a flute has just one, as does an oboe, trumpet,etc. even the human voice seems to have just one oscillator. Does a guitar have more than one oscillator? It seems to be that resonance and overtones go on to to make up for the lack, with tremolo and vibrato making up the rest. I think something similar happens with this simple synth.

[Vortifex]

I tried this on a ... I7 desktop (6 years old, can't remember the name)

On what kind of ancient crap you are trying to run this software? Uninstall Zoom, Windows Booster, and Windows Cleaners, do not apply any "recommended" settings, and do not run on 386khz with 6 sample ASIO buffers and you will be fine.

Ignore people who have weird configurations - this synth is awesome and there is nothing to worry about. Enjoy it

I'm also running this on a 6 year old i7 desktop, but with a 512 smp buffer, and some of the patches (Electric Himalaya's pad "Cinematic String H" for one) send FL Studio's CPU meter up to 70%

So I'd rather Patrick ignore Kmonkey on this and perhaps look and see if he could possibly do anything to optimise it on the systems people are actually using

[synaesthesia]

At 8:05 he says “sync the TWO Oscillators”…

Haha. My brain didn't know how to parse it any other way in that moment!

Obviously I meant waveforms but, the way it works feels very similar to having two oscillators at your disposal, especially when you start to use the Voice Tuning option as well as all the modulation capabilities.

[woodsdenis]

TalPha clearly has two oscillator sound sources. How can you sync or detune one osc against itself ? How Roland did this with their DCO is not relevant.