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WackyZoundz wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:01 pm
lunardigs wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:36 pm It surpassed Windows and Mac devices, combined, since around 2011.
Because it's free. That's the only reason. Companies will choose Linux over anything else if they can because it lowers production costs. Using this as evidence for the superiority of Linux makes no sense.
Right, that's when they embrace the virtue. That's when FOSS makes sense, when they can capitalize on it.
Btw, how many of these benefitors, of the commercial variety do think contribute back to their benefactors, or contribute code upstream to the kernel or something?
It's retarded

Superiority? Nah, I'm saying sheer instances/installs. If's way beyond win/mac, or BSD, or whatever else.
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yes

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"As of June 2023, Linux accounted for 3.08% of the desktop market, marking a milestone for the open-source operating system."
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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Contributing isn't fun if you can barely work together because there is no base structure, no hierarchy, no leader, no goal. It's messy as hell, like a band with equal members with each one wanting to play in a different genre. Add the typical antisocial behavior the Linux community is known for and you have a really bad combination.

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WackyZoundz wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:13 pm Contributing isn't fun if you can barely work together because there is no base structure, no hierarchy, no leader, no goal. It's messy as hell, like a band with equal members with each one wanting to play in a different genre. Add the typical antisocial behavior the Linux community is known for and you have a really bad combination.
Amazing it works at all, isn't it?
and yet it does

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revvy wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:12 pm "As of June 2023, Linux accounted for 3.08% of the desktop market, marking a milestone for the open-source operating system."
The year of Linux desktop!

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revvy wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:12 pm "As of June 2023, Linux accounted for 3.08% of the desktop market, marking a milestone for the open-source operating system."
And that's pretty much the way to minimize the apparent reach of Linux ...
Good job! :)

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lunardigs wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:16 pm Amazing it works at all, isn't it?
and yet it does
Depends on how you define "working". Only recently I became able to copy more than 1 GB of files to USB sticks at a speed of 20+ MB/s without having to restart the whole systen in between to purge the cache (otherwise the transfer rate dropped to less than 100 kb/s and stayed that low no matter what I tried) or to make the system crash completely. Working with Linux on desktop is still the same experience as with Windows 95. You find ways to make things work (mostly) but it's far from being as convenient, fast and reliable as today's Windows and MacOS.

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WackyZoundz wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:36 pm
lunardigs wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:16 pm Amazing it works at all, isn't it?
and yet it does
Depends on how you define "working". Only recently I became able to copy more than 1 GB of files to USB sticks at a speed of 20+ MB/s without having to restart the whole systen in between to purge the cache (otherwise the transfer rate dropped to less than 100 kb/s and stayed that low no matter what I tried) or to make the system crash completely. Working with Linux on desktop is still the same experience as with Windows 95. You find ways to make things work (mostly) but it's far from being as convenient, fast and reliable as today's Windows and MacOS.
For real?
I'm trying to think of what my last real gripe with linux desktop was ....
It's hard, because little if anything.

Just recently though, I started using linux mobile--as in a phone shell--and while it works well, there's definitely features missing and bugs right now. Still, it's my daily driver.

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lunardigs wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:50 pm For real?
For real. I keep experiencing plenty of bugs. Until recently I got kernel panic most of the time when shutting the system down (Only happened right before power off so it was not a big deal but it didn't leave a good impression either). Now I get a screen with graphical artifacts that look like the graphics card has died instead. The polling rate for USB mice is still too low to use them so I'm forced to use the touchpads on my laptops. Of all my laptops only a single webcam works up to this day but with its image vertically flipped so using Skype or Zoom is out of the question.

As long as I only browse the web or do office tasks with LibreOffice, things are okay. But as soon as I do more than that it's over. Sometimes I can fix issues or find workarounds but usually that's not the case, forcing me to wait and hope for an update. Fixing something also takes way too long, way longer than on Windows or MacOS - instead of hours I have to calculate in weeks. Then comes the next distro update and the entire thing starts all over again. Fixing never gets faster because each new version is too different. You never reach that point where you can speed the process up like with Windows or MacOS, you always start at zero. That's why I gave up on using Linux for anything else than the most basic tasks. It remains an experiment that mostly fails. At this pace I expect Linux to become usable for audio production in twenty more years if I'm optimistic.

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It's got to be your hardware. I check for compatibility for each component before I buy a system. In fact, I look for equipment that has been advertised as supported. In my case, I'm using a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 5. Works flawlessly except for the fingerprint reader, which I don't need. It's got to be that, because Linux really IS stable and works great. I'm not saying that you aren't having these experiences, but these are far and away not normal experiences by normal Linux users.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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WackyZoundz wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:05 pm
lunardigs wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:50 pm For real?
For real. I keep experiencing plenty of bugs. Until recently I got kernel panic most of the time when shutting the system down (Only happened right before power off so it was not a big deal but it didn't leave a good impression either). Now I get a screen with graphical artifacts that look like the graphics card has died instead. The polling rate for USB mice is still too low to use them so I'm forced to use the touchpads on my laptops. Of all my laptops only a single webcam works up to this day but with its image vertically flipped so using Skype or Zoom is out of the question.

As long as I only browse the web or do office tasks with LibreOffice, things are okay. But as soon as I do more than that it's over. Sometimes I can fix issues or find workarounds but usually that's not the case, forcing me to wait and hope for an update. Fixing something also takes way too long, way longer than on Windows or MacOS - instead of hours I have to calculate in weeks. Then comes the next distro update and the entire thing starts all over again. Fixing never gets faster because each new version is too different. You never reach that point where you can speed the process up like with Windows or MacOS, you always start at zero. That's why I gave up on using Linux for anything else than the most basic tasks. It remains an experiment that mostly fails. At this pace I expect Linux to become usable for audio production in twenty more years if I'm optimistic.
Lol!
c'mon, that sounds like bs

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lunardigs wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:19 am For real. I keep experiencing plenty of bugs. Until
Lol!
c'mon, that sounds like bs
You're once again proving how awful and useless the Linux community is.

I never met a single Windows or Mac user who claimed that "their" OS has no bugs. Not even the biggest Apple fanboy has ever claimed that. Yet here you are, pretending that Linux is perfect and has no bugs. And this leads to the next problem: The total lack of technical support. Because the Linux community has to pretend that "their" OS is perfect they can't give information about how to fix an issue. Because issues are not allowed to exist, that would make Linux imperfect. And this means you have to solve every single problem yourself instead of asking more experienced users. Which takes forever or isn't possible at all. No wonder why Linux is such a mess and will never be an alternative to Windows and MacOS. But hey, keep going with this crap if it makes you feel better. Just like I feel better when I put you on the block list like all the other trolls. Bye.

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WackyZoundz wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:38 am
lunardigs wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:19 am For real. I keep experiencing plenty of bugs. Until
Lol!
c'mon, that sounds like bs
You're once again proving how awful and useless the Linux community is.

I never met a single Windows or Mac user who claimed that "their" OS has no bugs. Not even the biggest Apple fanboy has ever claimed that. Yet here you are, pretending that Linux is perfect and has no bugs. And this leads to the next problem: The total lack of technical support. Because the Linux community has to pretend that "their" OS is perfect they can't give information about how to fix an issue. Because issues are not allowed to exist, that would make Linux imperfect. And this means you have to solve every single problem yourself instead of asking more experienced users. Which takes forever or isn't possible at all. No wonder why Linux is such a mess and will never be an alternative to Windows and MacOS. But hey, keep going with this crap if it makes you feel better. Just like I feel better when I put you on the block list like all the other trolls. Bye.
Lol!
c'mon, that sounds like total bs
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You are some Wacky dude, lol

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