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msvs wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:11 pm should work, maybe bug, will be fixed in next minor update
Hi Manuel, Later in the future there will be an implementation of another Know in the Single loop module, as in the photo that you can assign one of these extraordinary wonderful functions: Crazy, add octave, sub octave, detune flanging, detune wide, mono tu stereo, double tempo and half tempo, will there be a possibility of having another knob next to be able to assign 2 options with 2 different knobs, so as to be able to control like Crazy and ad octave? or Crazy and half tempo?
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nope sorry, but you just would have to open a second OSC (copy paste to new osc) for that. You can simulate all of these effects, except crazy, just with a copy of the same sample on another osc. Try panning, fine tune and transpose.

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msvs wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:50 am nope sorry, but you just would have to open a second OSC (copy paste to new osc) for that. You can simulate all of these effects, except crazy, just with a copy of the same sample on another osc. Try panning, fine tune and transpose.
ok very very thanks Manuel

I should ask you something important, if you can answer me. I would like to know how you do this procedure. That is, create a wavetable and shapes like you do, because for me you are the number one in sound design and I would like to learn from you as much as I can.

obviously i read the manual, but surely i'm doing something wrong. Because let's say i have a moog subsequent 25 how do i get the wavetables of the moog? or of any synth? do i have to make a C note of a sound that i created there in the hardware synth and then open avenger 2 and convert it to a wavetable? because i would like to have wavetables of various hardware synths not multisamples of sounds that then you can't do much with.

thank you so much for the work you do and the sounds you create that are amazing.

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yes, just use a low C or F note of your synth, sweep (quickly) through a modulation and use Avengers resampler function to load this sample. Then setup the table size according to your sampled note, so that 1 wave cycle matches 1 table. Thats it basically. You will notice that tuning changes, for example vibrator wont work very well, since they change the speed of 1 cycle. That also counts for unison or detuned 2 osc patches. So be sure to always use 1 osc basic stuff.
Please also be sure, that you cant say a wavetable is "better", than a multisample. A wavetable is still just a oneshot of a sample, cant capture pitch differences or quick transients, furthermore not formant changing things over pitch (for example a piano or voice) - so in many cases a multisample is the better choice. It always depends on what you want to do with the sound.

ps: to ask me sound design things, the official Facebook Avenger group is the better place. I am not often @kvr

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msvs wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:11 am yes, just use a low C or F note of your synth, sweep (quickly) through a modulation and use Avengers resampler function to load this sample. Then setup the table size according to your sampled note, so that 1 wave cycle matches 1 table. Thats it basically. You will notice that tuning changes, for example vibrator wont work very well, since they change the speed of 1 cycle. That also counts for unison or detuned 2 osc patches. So be sure to always use 1 osc basic stuff.
Please also be sure, that you cant say a wavetable is "better", than a multisample. A wavetable is still just a oneshot of a sample, cant capture pitch differences or quick transients, furthermore not formant changing things over pitch (for example a piano or voice) - so in many cases a multisample is the better choice. It always depends on what you want to do with the sound.

ps: to ask me sound design things, the official Facebook Avenger group is the better place. I am not often @kvr
Ok Manuel thank you very much, I expressed myself badly (forgive my English I'm Italian), but I didn't mean to say that the wavetable is better than the multisample. Even if the multisample is rightly the best in terms of quality, however you can't do many things on OSC1 like you can with a wavetable. Obviously I agree (I tried to sample a bass from the moog subsequent 25) and I imported it into the avenger 2 and it sounds awesome then between fx and filters etc (I then forgot that I was on a vsti)

ok I'll write to you in "the official Facebook Avenger group" but is it enough that I write a post? or do I have to write to you privately?

thank you very much for the advice, really too kind

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Is there anyway possible to expand the UI to view on the Mod Matrix on a 2nd monitor ? There's an entire world in there that I would love to be able to view more. This is a Beautiful synth / workstation, I just wish we could expand this.
INTERFACE: RME ADI-2/4 Pro/Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core/BAE 1073 MPF Dual/Heritage Audio Successor+SYMPH EQ
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88/Softsynths + Samplers
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Mood MK II

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trusampler wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:06 pm Is there anyway possible to expand the UI to view on the Mod Matrix on a 2nd monitor ? There's an entire world in there that I would love to be able to view more. This is a Beautiful synth / workstation, I just wish we could expand this.
sadly there seem to be no way to do so. There is a simliar question in the Avenger Facebook group and Manuel wrote that they are not able to draw outside the Avenger window.

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I have a 55" monitor I'm planning to add to my desk. This synth is incredible, that should allow me to see the mod matrix better :)
INTERFACE: RME ADI-2/4 Pro/Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core/BAE 1073 MPF Dual/Heritage Audio Successor+SYMPH EQ
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88/Softsynths + Samplers
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Mood MK II

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I get CPU spikes in every DAW but Studio One. Anybody have an idea what would be the reason for that?
First Piano/Keys patch in Factory 2 with 5 note chord hammers the CPU meter and causes drop outs in Live, Logic and Cubase (asio guard medium) but in Studio One it does not pass 10% with Drop out protection minimum. All with 128 buffer on Mac Pro M1 Max.

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c0LIn wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:50 am
trusampler wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:06 pm Is there anyway possible to expand the UI to view on the Mod Matrix on a 2nd monitor ? There's an entire world in there that I would love to be able to view more. This is a Beautiful synth / workstation, I just wish we could expand this.
sadly there seem to be no way to do so. There is a simliar question in the Avenger Facebook group and Manuel wrote that they are not able to draw outside the Avenger window.
If melda can create lots of useless pop-ups, Avenger could create at least 1 for the mod matrix :D On the other hand, let's better not introduce even more bugs.

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ozinga wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:16 pm I get CPU spikes in every DAW but Studio One. Anybody have an idea what would be the reason for that?
First Piano/Keys patch in Factory 2 with 5 note chord hammers the CPU meter and causes drop outs in Live, Logic and Cubase (asio guard medium) but in Studio One it does not pass 10% with Drop out protection minimum. All with 128 buffer on Mac Pro M1 Max.
Is Studio One using the VST version of the plug maybe?

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m-ac wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:37 pm
ozinga wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:16 pm I get CPU spikes in every DAW but Studio One. Anybody have an idea what would be the reason for that?
First Piano/Keys patch in Factory 2 with 5 note chord hammers the CPU meter and causes drop outs in Live, Logic and Cubase (asio guard medium) but in Studio One it does not pass 10% with Drop out protection minimum. All with 128 buffer on Mac Pro M1 Max.
Is Studio One using the VST version of the plug maybe?
Thx for reply.
All Vst3 except Logic AU.

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MirkoVanHauten wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:24 pm If melda can create lots of useless pop-ups, Avenger could create at least 1 for the mod matrix :D On the other hand, let's better not introduce even more bugs.

they may use another framework to draw the plugin.

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I have version 1 and it is unuseable on my Mac M1, even in a clean installation the audio cuts are unbearable. Without a demo to test the V2 I will not spend a single euro on the update and more reading the comments here.

Since I'm around here, I wanted to ask if there is any refund period if I buy the update and then it goes as bad as the V1?

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