Its over for Bitwig--CUBASE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gam456]

Well, Cubase is finally where Bitwig was years ago (in this regard) - of course, if that is enough for one’s needs …

for beatmaking, sure, but Bitwig is far from scoring

[_leras]

And even funnier : Cubase worked together with Bitwig and now has dawproject support, meaning that it can open Bitwig projects.

Not quite true. Both can use an intermediate format that has some automation.

Lots of stuff from Bitwig won't cross over.

[_leras]

As the title says
sell your bitwig license as long as you can
Cubase pro 14 won this battel , now they have modulators inside Cubase !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THIS IS CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!!!
long live Cubase
i deinstalled Bitwig i dont longer need this betawig software

LONG LIVE CUBASE

I don't believe you're a Bitwig user at all.

Sure this a a good feature for Cubase, but it's not close to how slick, flexible and integrated this modulation is in Bitwig.

Cubase is very well featured, but workflow is clunky AF compared to Bitwig.

And at $310 for an upgrade from just v 12, it's not greatly priced. As Cubase is my second DAW, to Bitwig, I can't see myself feeling I need to rush to get this update. (Dorico update looks great though, not that I really need it, lol)

[musikarldererste]

nah from v12 to v13 is 99$

[xbitz]

The Soundtoys have really improved with the internal modulation on individual devices. Previously, it wasn’t possible to control them from a common source(in the rack) like in the Transit(2) plugin, but now it is.



This puts Soundtoys on the same level as Kilohearts Snap Heap—it's still not as versatile, but it surpasses it in quality

[Gam456]

The Soundtoys have really improved with the internal modulation on individual devices. Previously, it wasn’t possible to control them from a common source(in the rack) like in the Transit(2) plugin, but now it is.

Do you mean we can have a single modulation in the effect rack to rules them all ?

[xbitz]

The Soundtoys have really improved with the internal modulation on individual devices. Previously, it wasn’t possible to control them from a common source(in the rack) like in the Transit(2) plugin, but now it is.

Do you mean we can have a single modulation in the effect rack to rules them all ?

there is 'master' in every group same as Transit just can have mutltiple blocks

transit.gif

which also can be modulated from other blocks

[Liero]

The problem with Cubase is that it has ended up being a Frankenstein DAW that tries to be everything at once, and as such nothing in it works especially well or quickly, with maybe the exception of the MIDI editor which I still like.

The reason Bitwig is still miles ahead in modulation and modularity is that it was built on top of that very idea from the start!

The reason REAPER is still miles ahead in customizability is that it was built for that from the start!

Every year Cubase is just a taller and taller Jenga tower with a less and less reliable foundation. 🏗

This is coming from someone who used it professionally for about a decade, and I still update the pro license every year to check out if Steinberg comes to their senses and makes a complete overhaul. So far no luck.

[muzicxs]

I purchased Cubase 13 a few months in a sale because otherwise I would be no longer eligible for upgrade prices due to their decommissioning of the eLicenser.

A new project crashed within 2 minutes trying to resample audio files to 48kHz. What a tragedy. Bitwig on the other hand has been rock solid for the last 4 years I've been using it. Such a relieve to not need to auto-save every minute or risk losing work.

[zvenx]

I have been using Cubendo since 2001/2002, professionally.
I am not saying some people don't have issues with stability in Cubendo, but what i am saying as a tester for Cubendo for well over a decade, not only me but other beta testers find less and less issues with each version.

Most of us find it more mature and stable with each version upgrade.

But of course everyone may have different experiences.
rsp

[keyman_sam]

This full release cycle is not a good sign for those of us who want the previous version to keep getting bug fixes and updates.

I love the workflow in cubase and I feel logic is yet to catch up on many things. But I’m not too excited to be paying 99$ for bug fixes.

[zvenx]

I am not sure how this changes things though.

Firstly there will be a final Cubase 13 update for bug fixes, but more to the point, I don't recall say issues fixed during the cycle of 11.5 also being fixed in Cubase 11, as they were being fixed in 11.5.

rsp

[audiojunkie]

I find that philosophy leads to very cluttered work environments. Sometimes you have to cut legacy stuff loose if you find a way to implement something in a better way.

The real power of Cubase lies in it's ability to be extremely customizable

Once you wrap your head around how to customize it, you can make it exactly how you want to do whatever you want. This becomes incredible as you can make it bend to your will

So you don't ultimately have a cluttered work environment, you end up with the exact work environment you want/need

Or you can create multiple task specific work environments. Say one for your work projects and another for your personal projects

Or one for your hardware and another for software, or one for recording microphones and guitars, and another for virtual instruments

It seems overwhelming at first but when you stick with it, it will click and start to make sense. Then the five ways to do something starts to make sense as one of those ways will incorporate itself better into whatever workflow you want to design

In a lot of ways you can consider it a modular environment

This is exactly what we Linux users like about Linux--and while I'm at it, this is exactly how we feel about Reaper as well.

[audiojunkie]

I have read those

Ah, you did - that's good!

As for technical again what is the advantage in a DAW environment? No one ever answers that question, they just want to claim CLAP is somehow better

Hang on - did you not just say that you read these pages?

So... maybe make a list here of the words you didn't comprehend, then we can see what we can do to help you out. (I think it's important to look out for people with handicaps.)

That's brutal! Overly harsh! Remind me to never challenge you on anything!!! I'd get torn apart!

[audiojunkie]

Hi, Cubase sounds better than Bitwig. It’s not coloured like other DAWs. What you put into it is what you get out. Hans Zimmer said it so it’s been said

Lol...

Hehehe!! I got a chuckle out of that too! Those days of DAW engine debates have been long over, but I guess the "young'uns" need to be taught.