Poll: What operating systems (OSes) run your music production systems (Dec 2024)?

[BONES]

My CPU usage on my 4c machine used to be between 12-28% before these Win updates. Now it's 28%-58% and has 99% spikes. Using the exact same apps and the only thing that's different is an updated Windows.

If anything, mine seems to go the other way. I was sure I was regularly seeing CPU use over 50% when I first got this machine but yesterday, when I was looking for figures to quote, I couldn't find anything that was going higher than 42%. Of course, I upgrade my computer every year so I wouldn't tend to notice any longer term trends but I'm sure I'd notice a big jump like the one you describe.

I'm just putting this out there but maybe that behaviour is an indication you should be on Win11? You have to remember that Win10 is almost a decade old now and Windows 11 is free, so there is absolutely no reason not to upgrade, beyond your own stubbornness, particularly as it's not your main working machine. Would you use a 10 year old version of UBUNTU?

[BBFG#]

No. It's every indication that shows MS is trying to herd me to Windows 11 though. And yes, I would use an older version of Ubuntu since there were reports of the last versions implementing some nefarious things.
As I said before, their latest versions have some aesthetics that make me recoil a bit too.
And above all that, I have an underlying Zhuangzi nature to regain my individual minimalism.

[audiojunkie]

Well, while not identical, I do have two main computers. I was just getting ready to put Win 10 on my "mostly air gap" box that is stripped to being studio centric. It runs both hardware workstations and internal software apps in a Win 7 environment. I tried 8.1 on it awhile back but that made some sacrifices to hardware communication I didn't care for.
This computer I use in my home is internet connected running Win 10. I use it consistently for downloads and to test/demo before deciding if I will try it on the "studio" machine. Note that the studio box is a double CPU server type. Since Windows is suddenly doing these things, I'm skeptical about letting it even near my better (albeit older) dedicated box.

I have run Ubuntu on it and it set up easily, but was informed by audiojunkie some time ago about the new undesirable implementations. It also has a left hand approach I didn't care for on first load up. Other distros I'm considering are Mint, Debian and even other Red Hat which look a little more promising for the hybrid hardware side of things. I've n also had an interest in BSD Dragonfly, but that maybe more of a future thing and more hoping that some of their coding makes into Linux distros.

For this home computer, I think my next step is to get another (larger) SSD and clone the current OS along with another partition for multiple boot. But figuring out what MS is doing here is paramount in any plan I go forward with.

What were the new undesirable implementations that I told you about? I’m trying to remember……

[BBFG#]

Honestly don't remember the specifics.
Nothing as bad as what MS is doing, but something to watch for. Like I said, there some aesthetically unappealing to me in the last couple of versions, which I believe can be changed.

[audiojunkie]

Honestly don't remember the specifics.
Nothing as bad as what MS is doing, but something to watch for. Like I said, there some aesthetically unappealing to me in the last couple of versions, which I believe can be changed.

I remember telling you that Canonical has tried adding advertisements and telemetry to Ubuntu, and that they have basically joined forces with Microsoft to be the main Linux OS used for Microsoft’s Subsystem for Linux. I said that Canonical’s main interest is monetization of Ubuntu, and I said that I think Flatpaks are the future over Snaps. I’ve said that I prefer a community controlled distro that doesn’t have such a heavy corporate influence. I don’t think I’ve ever said that they are nefarious though. They are, however, too corporate for my tastes. I don’t like Ubuntu. If any distro were to be a modern-day Microsoft, it would be the one belonging to Canonical. But they aren’t evil—they are just much more concerned about chasing a buck than I’m comfortable with.

[havran]

Some random organic happenstance, I guess.

[machinesworking]

We're mixing up things a bit here, my quote is related to audio recording in the 90's which was all Pro Tools

Again, not in my experience. Every studio I looked at and/or used in the 90s was using ADAT. I honestly wouldn't have known what ProTools was back then. I'd probably never heard of it until I joined KVR.

I played in a NY Noise Post Punk type band in the 90's it was 96 when we took our 8 and 16 track recordings to a guys house who had just graduated recording college of some kind or another with an embryonic Pro Tools setup in his house to add additional tracks and fix the mix etc. It was my first experience seeing someone fix some slightly off vocals I had done drunkenly a 16nth note late. ADAT in the states was an 80's thing, not a soul was using it in the 90's, people were using pro tools for digital and recording to 2" tape. I had a copy of Digital Performer around 96 as well, but the audio cards were too expensive for me back then, it was all Digidesign the makers of Pro Tools, so I didn't use the audio part until 2000 when M-Audio had a cheap PCI card.

by the end of the decade all the MIDI sequencers as you well know got audio recording capabilities.

Actually, I don't, as that predates any interest I had in using computers for music. Cubase VST 3.5 was my first experience of working ITB and I did not enjoy it one bit. I tried it for a month or two before returning it to the store where I'd bought it. It was all completely new and foreign to me at the time and made no sense at all compared to my fully loaded Trinity. If it wasn't for Orion, I'd probably still be working with hardware.

Ha! Yeah I'm probably lucky I waited until the M-Audio card, and a year or two the MOTU 828 firewire which was much more reliable. The whole experience was pretty seamless by 2000. Plus i had always preferred MIDI sequencers on a computer over boxes. It was an easy transition from using samplers and synths with MIDI and waiting to record to actually recording what I did, and a few years later going mostly in the box with Reason in Rewire, Reason covering drums, simple synths and sampling. Crazy thinking about how much more powerful it's all become since then.

[BONES]

I'm talking 2000 or 2001. If I'd wanted to record anything back then, I'd have used Cool Edit 2000 and I didn't need any peripheral hardware to do that. I'd been using Cool Edit for several years to prep samples for the ASR-10, so I wasn't really interested in recording, I had that sorted. I wanted to replace my Trinity, I wanted a sequencer and virtual instruments. In fact, we finished our first two albums before Orion even supported audio recording. We recorded vox in CE2k and loaded the takes into Orion. Of course, by then we had a USB 1.0 audio interface. My bandmate still uses that Edirol device as his I/O with Win10, or maybe as a back-up to the Scarlet 2i2, I'm not sure. But it's definitely sitting on his desk so I assume it gets used for something, 23 or 24 years later. Amazing when you think about it.

[machinesworking]

I'm talking 2000 or 2001. If I'd wanted to record anything back then, I'd have used Cool Edit 2000 and I didn't need any peripheral hardware to do that. I'd been using Cool Edit for several years to prep samples for the ASR-10, so I wasn't really interested in recording, I had that sorted. I wanted to replace my Trinity, I wanted a sequencer and virtual instruments. In fact, we finished our first two albums before Orion even supported audio recording. We recorded vox in CE2k and loaded the takes into Orion. Of course, by then we had a USB 1.0 audio interface. My bandmate still uses that Edirol device as his I/O with Win10, or maybe as a back-up to the Scarlet 2i2, I'm not sure. But it's definitely sitting on his desk so I assume it gets used for something, 23 or 24 years later. Amazing when you think about it.

Looking at Cool edit, it's a two track recorder, I think this is definitely a case where you were working harder. By 2001 I was recording vocals, samplers, guitar and hardware synths into DP without having to transfer from my MIDI sequencing environment.
I think probably because I had seen what Pro Tools could do with audio files in the 90's and already was using a computer for my sequencer it just wasn't much of a jump to going with a full DAW experience. I was already using a DAW in the 90's, I just wasn't recording the audio into it.

[FranklyFlawless]

PureOS 10.3 'Byzantium' on a 32 GB Live USB.

[HOTF]

win11, Live12. I'm not changing anytime soon but when i do I might switch to mac (considering it for the first time) . Videogames don't interest me like they used too and Mac Mini has a real sweetspot of price/performance ratio rn. We will se if Apple can keep this going.

[BBFG#]

Honestly don't remember the specifics.
Nothing as bad as what MS is doing, but something to watch for. Like I said, there some aesthetically unappealing to me in the last couple of versions, which I believe can be changed.

I remember telling you that Canonical has tried adding advertisements and telemetry to Ubuntu, and that they have basically joined forces with Microsoft to be the main Linux OS used for Microsoft’s Subsystem for Linux. I said that Canonical’s main interest is monetization of Ubuntu, and I said that I think Flatpaks are the future over Snaps. I’ve said that I prefer a community controlled distro that doesn’t have such a heavy corporate influence. I don’t think I’ve ever said that they are nefarious though. They are, however, too corporate for my tastes. I don’t like Ubuntu. If any distro were to be a modern-day Microsoft, it would be the one belonging to Canonical. But they aren’t evil—they are just much more concerned about chasing a buck than I’m comfortable with.

This all sounds familiar to me. So yes.
However, I do consider some of this leading to the nefarious actions. It starts with ads, which lead to tracking, which leads to more control of the system to make sure it's being seen.
Over the decades I've found underground media print circulars for news sources and there's always a trajectory that always ends up being a porn rag. Something between that and the old stereotype of drug dealers getting people hooked has been going on for awhile in this. But closer to a food addiction in that we now need these connections to survive and maybe thrive. But we don't need every empty cookie they try to shove down our throat. And the ingredients in them don't care if they kill us as long as they get our money first.

[audiojunkie]

Honestly don't remember the specifics.
Nothing as bad as what MS is doing, but something to watch for. Like I said, there some aesthetically unappealing to me in the last couple of versions, which I believe can be changed.

I remember telling you that Canonical has tried adding advertisements and telemetry to Ubuntu, and that they have basically joined forces with Microsoft to be the main Linux OS used for Microsoft’s Subsystem for Linux. I said that Canonical’s main interest is monetization of Ubuntu, and I said that I think Flatpaks are the future over Snaps. I’ve said that I prefer a community controlled distro that doesn’t have such a heavy corporate influence. I don’t think I’ve ever said that they are nefarious though. They are, however, too corporate for my tastes. I don’t like Ubuntu. If any distro were to be a modern-day Microsoft, it would be the one belonging to Canonical. But they aren’t evil—they are just much more concerned about chasing a buck than I’m comfortable with.

This all sounds familiar to me. So yes.
However, I do consider some of this leading to the nefarious actions. It starts with ads, which lead to tracking, which leads to more control of the system to make sure it's being seen.
Over the decades I've found underground media print circulars for news sources and there's always a trajectory that always ends up being a porn rag. Something between that and the old stereotype of drug dealers getting people hooked has been going on for awhile in this. But closer to a food addiction in that we now need these connections to survive and maybe thrive. But we don't need every empty cookie they try to shove down our throat. And the ingredients in them don't care if they kill us as long as they get our money first.

It can certainly turn that way. That's why I'm cautious.

[audiojunkie]

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[legendCNCD]

Windows 11 Pro, now both of us. Before was Win 7 & OSX 10.11 or something like that..