Let‘s speculate about 6.0

[stamp]

How to do this? If I want to save a track with all of its parameters, like I/O, monitoring and stuff in the inspector (like those pitch bend settings), I'm forced to save a project with this track, just to grab this track from the browser, then, am I not?

In fact, I find this very clunky and I'd love to see more easy options for default/preset tracks (maybe a bit like in reaper?).

Am I missing something here?

Create a clip on the track and save the clip. Drag the saved clip in an empty area and it will create the track with all your settings. Works also for groups.

[Chameleonman]

How to do this? If I want to save a track with all of its parameters, like I/O, monitoring and stuff in the inspector (like those pitch bend settings), I'm forced to save a project with this track, just to grab this track from the browser, then, am I not?

In fact, I find this very clunky and I'd love to see more easy options for default/preset tracks (maybe a bit like in reaper?).

Am I missing something here?

Create a clip on the track and save the clip. Drag the saved clip in an empty area and it will create the track with all your settings. Works also for groups.

Also you can have creative ways, like saving a preset project that is always open in a backround and it's full of tracks you can just copy from there. It's easier than the browser with endless clicking and frustration.

[_leras]

...After years of working with it, switching to any other DAW is simply unthinkable. ...

I think, this is an extreme dangerous trap... if you go "internal presets only" and you are forced to use a different product (for whatever reason but shit can always happen) you are doomed...

This doesn't include plug in presets which often write out to a separate file anyway, and yes which ideally you'd still save and back up.

Internal presets - for me - are either often used utilities and chains of FX.
e.g.
- Tool -6, -12, -18 that help with gainstaging
- A couple of different LPF starting points
- Reverb and delays chains, some including post reverb compression and eq
- 'quick master'preset chains that I can use to check things against and use when mixing
- Drum bus chains presets that I use compression EQ etc

Reminds me I should probably create some ducking presets.

I fully agree with enCiphered the preset system is awesome. Saves so much time. I'm only a basic bitch user of it, but still find it super helpful and a Bitwig super power.

[_leras]

I never use its built in preset handling. I always use the plugin's system.

I've probably missed something, but some plug ins (looking and you plug in alliance), seems not to have a preset system and you need to use the Bitwig preset system.

To be fair it works well for this situation quickly popping up a lists of presets.

[TheYke]

How to do this? If I want to save a track with all of its parameters, like I/O, monitoring and stuff in the inspector (like those pitch bend settings), I'm forced to save a project with this track, just to grab this track from the browser, then, am I not?

In fact, I find this very clunky and I'd love to see more easy options for default/preset tracks (maybe a bit like in reaper?).

Am I missing something here?

Create a clip on the track and save the clip. Drag the saved clip in an empty area and it will create the track with all your settings. Works also for groups.

Have to try that one out, thanks.

[pdxindy]

Also you can have creative ways, like saving a preset project that is always open in a backround and it's full of tracks you can just copy from there. It's easier than the browser with endless clicking and frustration.

I understand it is not for everyone, but if you use key commands, there is very little clicking in the browser to get to whatever you want.

[Teksonik]

I never use its built in preset handling. I always use the plugin's system.

I've probably missed something, but some plug ins (looking and you plug in alliance), seems not to have a preset system and you need to use the Bitwig preset system.
To be fair it works well for this situation quickly popping up a lists of presets.

I never use Browsers in any DAW. I find them to be a waste of screen space and don't even get me started on "drag and drop" which is the work of Satan.

When BW went from version 4 to 5 the browser became a convoluted mess for me and I never got over my hatred of it.

As for the Plugin Alliance plugins you're right they don't have a preset handling system and rely on the DAW but the other DAWs I use have an "on wrapper" style preset handling system for them that does not require the use of a Browser.

All the PA plugins I use are FX plugins so presets are hardly used since each instance is source dependent.

All the synths I use have a built in preset handling system. For example DUNE 3 does have a preset browser which I very rarely use since I prefer the efficiency of the drop down lists which allow me to view 224 presets at a time instead of the handful viewable without scrolling in the browser (which is the weakness of most preset browsers for me).

I haven't used Bitwig in probably a year and don't have it installed on my new system as I'm "dead ended" on version 5.1.1 or whatever it is. So I don't remember if Bitwig has a system on the plugin's wrapper or toolbar to access presets.

My main compliant was the constant and time consuming scanning of presets and other content so much so that I uninstalled all of BW's sample and other content to speed up the process.

It was very disconcerting watching BW scan my personal custom made presets which quite frankly are none of its business.

For me BW seems to try and do too much. It's trying to be an all inclusive system of samples and presets etc and all I really need is an efficient DAW for composition but then I'm not one who fancies a lot of modulation which seems to be BW's intended forte.

If the issues I listed above are ever addressed I would be willing to give BW another try but if they're still lacking by version 6 then I don't have much faith they'll ever be addressed.

[_leras]

Oh... My maybe number one hope for 6.0 would be an improvement to sampler or a sampler+

Specific Id like better envelopes, especially better attack options and info for time of envelopes plus a better visual display of said envelopes over the sample and/or showing the output sample shape as well.

I can't recall if I emailed a great request for this but will do again!

[TheYke]

Oh... My maybe number one hope for 6.0 would be an improvement to sampler or a sampler+

Specific Id like better envelopes, especially better attack options and info for time of envelopes plus a better visual display of said envelopes over the sample and/or showing the output sample shape as well.

I can't recall if I emailed a great request for this but will do again!

Hm, don't forget slicing

[EagleZone]

I barely use Bitwig since the browser changes have made it so annoying to do simple things (when using mainly a mouse... understand people have different approaches.)

Hope version 6 will make the original snappy workflow viable again, whilst maintaining the actual improvements... As have to say, the method for creating favourites etc IS better since the changes- regardless of workflow! Just a pain at times to actually access them without clicking things open/closed and navigating back and forth needlessly (was not necessary before.)

[The Mantra]

Oh... My maybe number one hope for 6.0 would be an improvement to sampler or a sampler+

Specific Id like better envelopes, especially better attack options and info for time of envelopes plus a better visual display of said envelopes over the sample and/or showing the output sample shape as well.

I can't recall if I emailed a great request for this but will do again!

Hm, don't forget slicing

And time stretching

[monolithx]

If they could fix and improve all the long time annoyances would be enough for me. Like multitrack selection settings, all the control management system, dump of VST parameters for external controllers, true values instead of %, menus UI fields, restore columns size after crash (audio engine under Windows is not stable, specially after wake up... we are in 2025...), undo mess, colors on devices headers, multi midi inputs on VST3s, multichannels, the routing sub-menus tree mess, modulations on devices buttons, windows UI management system. I don't need any new "visionary" +++ toy!

[dellboy]

During the last sale I upgraded from Essentials to full Bitwig Studio - I used it for a bit, and then just stopped using it. I mainly used Bitwig for the clip launching feature - and then Studio One added that. The odd thing is that I have now stopped using Studio One, and have gone back to Cubase exclusively, and do not miss clip launching.

Maybe I should just sell Bitwig, as I never use any of its tools like the grid and modulation, but I have never sold any software before. I will hang on and see what direction version 6 is heading and hope that they add traditional DAW features.

[stamp]

... we are in 2025...

What should this even mean? It's not like in 2025 software is easier or faster to code.
Only because other daws have gotten their acts together doesn't mean the devs don't care or whatever you might think. The other daws had more then double the time to get where they are vs Bitwig being around for only ten years...
Stuff will get fixed eventually.

[dellboy]

Bitwig being around for only ten years...

Sorry for nitpicking, but Bitwig was officially launched on 26 March 2014; 11 years ago. And I believe that that the actual development started quite a few years before its launch. All the basics of a decent usable DAW were there in version One................

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/bitwig-studio