Best type saturation vst for 2025?

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Calagan wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:25 pm
SebAV wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:25 am
zerocrossing wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:07 am These days, a lot of stuff is good or great. What you need to look for is aliasing, which can be prevalent in plugins that do distortion of any type. Decapitator is one of those plugins that was considered great in its day, but in modern times it doesn't really hold up due to a lack of internal oversampling. It's easy to check for. Just run some high notes though a plugin as you turn up the distortion amount and you'll start to hear the weird inharmonic garbage that aliasing creates.
I’m always astonished by the fact that something that « great at the time » is no longer ? I mean if it sounds bad today, it sounded bad at the time ? Or is there any combination of used algorithms and quality of DACs of the time ? Or were those old plugins used as « one trick pony » in their « not bad » spectrum of use ?
Is 78rpm still as fresh and amazing as in the good old days (during the roaming 20s) ?
Or is it sounding like shit ?
There is nothing natural or objective in how a specific technology is supposed to sound to human ears. People has some expectations based on what is considered the best at the moment. 78rpm was the thing hundred years ago. It's not anymore (at least, to most of us)...
Best _available_ at the moment or to your money. I think it’s related to how you’re educated. Today, with all the hi quality plugins, whether clones or original, we can hear différences or bad quality because we’ve references.
I remember when the Roland D50 was all the rage, reading in interviews, « famous » musicians saying that the reverb on it was crap, where the included FX was indeed a strong selling point among us mere mortals. It’s obvious they had access to better sounding Lexicon & Co.
During the 00 decade, every soft synth or FX was a discovery, so a lot of them sounded great by absence of a better reference. It’s now moré true.

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Audified U 78 is good. I used to have a 32-bit installer for it but lost it, and they only provide 64-bit now. Is anyone willing to share a pre-v2.1 installer?

Fuse Audio Labs make lots of different plugins that include saturation prominently or as a side effect. For trying them out I'd recommend starting with the VPRE category.
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Calagan wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:25 pm Is 78rpm still as fresh and amazing as in the good old days (during the roaming 20s) ?
Or is it sounding like shit ?
There is nothing natural or objective in how a specific technology is supposed to sound to human ears. People has some expectations based on what is considered the best at the moment. 78rpm was the thing hundred years ago. It's not anymore (at least, to most of us)...
All this said, I don't find any issue with Decapitator : I like how it sounds (dirty !), and if I need some "purer" distortion I can use another plugin (ColdFire, Tupe, Sonimus T-Console...), but Decapitator has its uses and is still an excellent plugin (IMHO)...
Let's give it another decade and it will be a vintage plugin with nostalgic aliasing as a feature, not a bug. Also, what with cassette deck plugins and four-track Tascam emulations and UA Verve etc., surely someone must have released a 78 rpm emulation plugin?
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Shocked there's no mention of Toneprojects' Kelvin.

That's absolutely my goto for anything that isn't rip your face off distortion.

Plenty of models and plenty of routing and tone controls.

It sounds fantastic.

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Kilohearts Shaper Table (inside the SnapHeap) can give you immense variations in distortion and saturation.

If you are into electronic music like techno, then PA Vertigo VSM-3 is very unique for shaping kicks because of its parallel approach (it can substitute layering processes)

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concealed identity wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:09 pm
Lotuz2019 wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:55 pm Not sure if it's the best, but if price isn't important, then you might as well want to pick this one up as a bonus:

https://unitedplugins.com/DarkFire/
I just picked this up after demoing it for a couple of weeks.
I really think United Plugins (and JMG Sound in particular) have some really underrated plugins. They just tend to have horrible names and slightly cheesy GUIs at times.
But DarkFire lets you do some cool stuff, it basically separates the harmonics, lets you tweak them in various ways, and then adds them back on top. Different sound and different workflow than other saturators I use.
Also liking this one.

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clintmartin wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:06 pm Klanghelm SDRR is worth considering.
This.
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i love the free Mackity
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Igro wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:49 pm If you are into electronic music like techno, then PA Vertigo VSM-3 is very unique for shaping kicks because of its parallel approach (it can substitute layering processes)
Interesting, will have to give that a try. I've not tended to use it much on individual sources.

I have had good results with this on my main output bus and in mastering, where just small amounts can bring something more to life.

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Sound_Bear wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:32 am ... surely someone must have released a 78 rpm emulation plugin?
3 decades ago inside of Cubase. :wink:
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top 3 best sounding saturators i have tried - PSP Saturator, Tone projects kelvin, softube harmonics analog saturation processor
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Honestly, I keep coming back to Black Box Analog Design HG‑2 for that thick, harmonically rich tube warmth without killing my CPU. FabFilter Saturn 2 is a close second since its multiband approach lets you add subtle tube glow or aggressive grit exactly where you want it. Overloud’s Gem Sculptube nails authentic tube coloration and barely dents modern CPUs, so you can stack tons of instances without flinching. Kush Audio’s LG Drive is a deceptively simple two‑stage colorbox emulation that rivals EQ in shaping tone with creamy tube mojo. If you’ve got UAD hardware, the Studer A800 sounds amazing across your mix bus, but it needs that DSP card to breathe.

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There is now a Weiss Exciter vst

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MasteringBOX wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:24 pm If you’ve got UAD hardware, the Studer A800 sounds amazing across your mix bus, but it needs that DSP card to breathe.
They have a native equivalent that doesn't require a DSP.
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