Madrona Labs Sumu

[pchase]

Hi, is there any information about updates? As far as I understand, there have been no updates for a long time, and the product looks somewhat abandoned. Is there any information about possible reasons?

Seriously get a grip. Not every software needs continuous updates, that doesn't mean it's abandoned.

[kraster]

Hi, is there any information about updates? As far as I understand, there have been no updates for a long time, and the product looks somewhat abandoned. Is there any information about possible reasons?

Seriously get a grip. Not every software needs continuous updates, that doesn't mean it's abandoned.

There are bugs in the current version. So it definitely warrants an update.

The last actual version was in November. 9 months ago.

The last correspondence was Dec 24th where the Email content was about the end of a sale and a bug fix update "in the first half of January"

I'm a big fan of Madrona Labs but progress is glacial and let's face it they're not a charity and they shouldn't be making claims about fixing things on a timeline while at the same time marketing the plugin.

I don't blame warcat for having the impression it's abandoned.

[pchase]

So Randy made a hopeful estimate he probably shouldn't have and is 6 months over, and you jump from that to "abandoned". Recalibrate your understanding of how software works. He's also a solo developer. 6 months unexpected work is nothing.

Comparing it to charity is almost offensive. It's not anything like charity, you're getting a complete product which you are almost implying is worthless or he shouldn't be charging for. Again, get a grip.

[warcat]

Hi, is there any information about updates? As far as I understand, there have been no updates for a long time, and the product looks somewhat abandoned. Is there any information about possible reasons?

Seriously get a grip. Not every software needs continuous updates, that doesn't mean it's abandoned.

There are bugs in the current version. So it definitely warrants an update.

The last actual version was in November. 9 months ago.

The last correspondence was Dec 24th where the Email content was about the end of a sale and a bug fix update "in the first half of January"

I'm a big fan of Madrona Labs but progress is glacial and let's face it they're not a charity and they shouldn't be making claims about fixing things on a timeline while at the same time marketing the plugin.

I don't blame warcat for having the impression it's abandoned.

thanks. yes, it seems they have problems with a realistic assessment of their capabilities, which creates questions. but at least it is moving. that is the main thing. it means the product will still develop and I can jump into it. that is all that matters.

[kraster]

So Randy made a hopeful estimate he probably shouldn't have and is 6 months over, and you jump from that to "abandoned". Recalibrate your understanding of how software works. He's also a solo developer. 6 months unexpected work is nothing.

Comparing it to charity is almost offensive. It's not anything like charity, you're getting a complete product which you are almost implying is worthless or he shouldn't be charging for. Again, get a grip.

There are plenty of solo devs that both deliver timely updates and don't make unrealistic declarations about when those updates come.

The whole point of saying it's not a charity is that there are certain expectations and obligations when you sell a product as opposed to something that is given for free. I own every single Madrona Labs software product including Sumu.

Stop telling people to "get a grip" for having completely reasonable expectations.

[pchase]

I just think your expectations are actually not reasonable. It might be understandable to be angry with a dev for not providing macos compatibility updates for long after selling a product say. But there hasn't even *been* a single macos release since Sumu came out, that's how new it is. And yet it's 'abandoned'.

You see this kind of post all the time recently on kvr, "I've been using this product I think it's perfect, it's the best sounding X I have and I can't think of anything to improve about it! But the dev hasn't released an update in 6 months I think I'm going to stop using it just in case"

You're buying a functional
product, it doesn't have to also be a relationship where the developer will keep tickling your dopamine addiction with updates and trinkets. If you want that buy one of those subscription model synths. But avoid developers like u-he (even slower with updates) and madrona.

[Andreya_Autumn]

For the record, there is a beta build currently being tested and worked on. Which of course doesn't mean that I (or anyone) can promise you an exact release date. But I can promise you that the word "abandoned" does not actually describe the state of things.

[Dirtgrain]

I just think your expectations are actually not reasonable. It might be understandable to be angry with a dev for not providing macos compatibility updates for long after selling a product say. But there hasn't even *been* a single macos release since Sumu came out, that's how new it is. And yet it's 'abandoned'.

You see this kind of post all the time recently on kvr, "I've been using this product I think it's perfect, it's the best sounding X I have and I can't think of anything to improve about it! But the dev hasn't released an update in 6 months I think I'm going to stop using it just in case"

You're buying a functional
product, it doesn't have to also be a relationship where the developer will keep tickling your dopamine addiction with updates and trinkets. If you want that buy one of those subscription model synths. But avoid developers like u-he (even slower with updates) and madrona.

I play video games. I always feel a need to level up. We as humans have been driven to improve things. Onward and upward! To infinity and beyond!

. . . but, what happened to my music? It's not improving on pace with my GAS? What happened to me?

[kraster]

Nvm

[Download SOphist]

latest release (1.1.1) is up on the site for download.
https://madronalabs.com/products/sumu?locale=us

[aMUSEd]

Good - finally - hope it works with poly AT now

[foosnark]

Would be nice if there were some patch notes somewhere.

There's MPE, but...it just doesn't feel playable. I keep getting stuck notes. For me Sumu remains a beautiful but occasional drone synth, I guess.

[aMUSEd]

Would be nice if there were some patch notes somewhere.

There's MPE, but...it just doesn't feel playable. I keep getting stuck notes. For me Sumu remains a beautiful but occasional drone synth, I guess.

OK got it now - poly AT is working if I activate MPE which is a bit weird but never mind - it works is the main thing

[warcat]

latest release (1.1.1) is up on the site for download.
https://madronalabs.com/products/sumu?locale=us

can't find the changelog. Where do they publish it?

[Download SOphist]

There is one on their discord, don't know if it is proper to post it here, if it's not I´ll take it off.

Anyway, from Randy:

gui: fix scrolling after setting default in popup dials
gui: fix missing update bug when pasting registration
osc: fix zipper noise in AM mod index
AU wrapper: fix Obj-C namespace collisions
fix UI scale bug with muliple displays of different scales
allow slower LFO times
increase LFO popup dials precision
adjust text position for negative numbers in Dials
increase pulses ratio dial precision
fix slow LFO sync
improve host clock sync
reset pulses hi scale offsets when adjusting past zero
fixed issue loading state saved by beta version
added MIDI learn for dials via popup menu
added main […] menu with gui and input settings
gui : added numbers on / off menu
gui : added scroll normal / reverse menu
input: added protocol [MIDI / MPE] menu
input: added MPE bend range [ 0 / 12 / 24 / 48 / 96 ] menu
input: reduced latency of gate and pitch in patcher
input: added MPE mode