SWAY - a synth modeled after the Yamaha SY77

[IvyBirds]

From what I have read, SY77 and the subsequent FS1r are the most advanced FM synths by Yamaha, more complex than their current flagship,

The current FM-X engine inside of Yamaha's flagship "Montage" is the same FM engine that was in FS1R with enhancements, particularly when it comes to effects, filters and most importantly polyphony. FS1R when used with the resonant filters only had 16 Voices of Polyphony, you can get 128 voices of FM with Montage and no limitations on filters

FS1R also had formant synthesis for making vowel sounds, and mimicking human voices but that was really separate from the pure FM side. Montage also has Formant BTW it's just differently

Montage is without a doubt more powerful than FS1R and it's far more approachable and easier to use, because the interface is more hands on, and the screen is significantly better

SY77 is a totally different beast than FS1R. It can do some things that FS1R/FM-X can't. It's an entirely different approach to doing Yamaha style FM. It's not that one is better than the other it's just different

[Uncle E]

couldn’t all of this be done using a good FM synth, a sampler, and effects?

Oh, sorry, no, that's wrong. While there are a few plugins that can do most of things an SY77 can do, layering any old FM synth with a sampler won't come close. The SY77 integrates the samples into the frequency modulation, it doesn't just layer them.

[revvy]

Zzs

[audiojunkie]

couldn’t all of this be done using a good FM synth, a sampler, and effects?

Oh, sorry, no, that's wrong. While there are a few plugins that can do most of things an SY77 can do, layering any old FM synth with a sampler won't come close. The SY77 integrates the samples into the frequency modulation, it doesn't just layer them.

Ah, ok. Good to know.

[DCrown]

I am not going to read 84 pages of a thread. Could anyone please send a link to download the plugin? I hope there is a demo version.

[beely]

Sure: http://www.timemachine.com?jump=forward&amount=6monthsshoulddoit&redirect=https://strydeaudio.com/swayed

As of now: "Swayed is currently in the final stages of a closed beta test. If you would like to be notified when it's ready for release, please subscribe to the newsletter."

[wagtunes]

Sure: http://www.timemachine.com?jump=forward&amount=6monthsshoulddoit&redirect=https://strydeaudio.com/swayed

As of now: "Swayed is currently in the final stages of a closed beta test. If you would like to be notified when it's ready for release, please subscribe to the newsletter."

Link doesn't work.

[Aloysius]

Then fix it, dear wagtunes, dear wagtunes, dear wagtunes.

[wagtunes]

Then fix it, dear wagtunes, dear wagtunes, dear wagtunes.

It's okay. I get it now. It's a joke. Ha, ha, ha.

[Aloysius]

[DCrown]

found a link on the first page.
It sounds like Yamaha, amazing!

Will it be limited to 61 (5 octaves) sounding keys or 88?

[EvilDragon]

There's no reason to limit it to 61 keys...

[Tj Shredder]

There is even no reason to limit it to 88… Any user can invoke a limit on their own by not playing the missing keys of a keyboard…; - )

[Teksonik]

Are there any VSTi synths that don't respond to the full 128 MIDI note range? I've never even given that a thought.

I have a 61 key controller with bottom C set to note #36 and rarely change the octave range of the keyboard.

I'm not sure how sonically useful note numbers 0 or 127 would be for melodic presets as only seismographs and dogs could detect the extreme ranges but I suppose if you wanted to load 128 drum samples at once the full range could be useful.

[Spitfire31]

If you're playing say, sampled libraries with a lot of keyswitches, Sonokinetic for example, 88 keys can sometimes feel quite restricting...
/JHS