Native Instruments file for insolvency...

[jancivil]

And it seems to me that Apple users are the most worried about companies coding for Linux.

Sorry no, I'm an Apple user for decades and I don't care at all about Linux.

You cared enough to comment that you don't care at all...
I could swear there's a short circuit that gets installed in the brain when Apple is adopted.

I know for certain you're a lot more intelligent than this post would suggest.

The goalpost was Mac users are 'the most worried' about companies coding for Linux.

For my part, I've never given Linux itself much thought, because without any investigation past browsing this forum I see there are problems I would not elect to have. The problems aren't interesting. I see the impetus of embracing it as an ideological gesture of refusal, not because that's interesting per se but because I'm conscious as I encounter it and have thoughts, and I encounter it because its advocates interject it not necessarily needing a real opportunity on topic.

Someone says they don't care at all about Linux. Posting that shows they are "worried about companies coding for Linux" HOW? (It's as though the entire point of noting it was to mock with laughing emoticon, there is no other sense in that.)
I stated an absence of interest in companies coding for it as a response to the assertion. I never thought about it, I'm still not giving it any consideration. I don't know how it would change anything for me.

I'll reduce this: an atheist states they don't believe in "God"; the theist counters with 'you obviously believe in God, you just showed that in the mention of it.'

Make it make sense.

[dayjob]

Do you think PA, Brainworx and iZotope will survive when NI does not make it?

PA and Izotope seem so embedded in things.. izotope products are widely used in post and production. hard to imagine them going away completely. some restructuring of some kind is waiting for all these brands though.. it’s just going to take time..

this thread moves at a much quicker pace than whatever is happening w/the NI insolvency filing and restructuring. i think PA made some statements though.. about being “fine” and unaffected or something but i can’t remember on what page of this thread those details are located.

[camsr]

As for consumer level linux, it's the nature of the beast. There is not a pile of cash from profits, that can be used to advertise linux as an OS, so word-of-mouth ads are very common. And the quality/accuracy of such 'ads' varies wildly

Linux itself varies wildly. The best advice I can give to anyone reading this message is that Linux is only an OS kernel, but you get confused when you read "OS" and assume it means "it will do what windoze does". When in fact Linux will do just about anything YOU TELL IT TO. The more you know...

[camsr]

For my part, I've never given Linux itself much thought, because without any investigation past browsing this forum I see there are problems I would not elect to have. The problems aren't interesting. I see the impetus of embracing it as an ideological gesture of refusal, not because that's interesting per se but because I'm conscious as I encounter it and have thoughts, and I encounter it because its advocates interject it not necessarily needing a real opportunity on topic.

Do not use a Linux OS if you can't administrate it. Also, much software just will not work with Linux. It is still the geeky "other" OS versus windoze and mac, so if you use it, prepare to geek out. Also, (but I'm not 100% sure about this) some parts of ALL mac systems are based on Linux code, or maybe Unix, it's a weird grey area.

[machinesworking]

I honestly feel like I see 100 people complaining about obnoxious vegans for every obnoxious vegan

Windows XP

As someone who is vegan, I've mentioned it maybe once on here in 20 odd years, including saying it right now. You get used to the whole routine after a while, it just lets you know who has a suburban hyper conformist mentality when they A-know they are the dominant cultural trend, and B- cannot help but remind you when it comes up that you must be overbearing about it since you don't laugh at the exact same joke made 10,000 times. If you say anything at all they think that makes their point, as you see with buddy and his Mac diatribe. If anyone gets offended by his hatred and stereotyping then they are the weirdos. It's a clown show of insecurity hiding as bad jokes.

[glokraw]

Do not use a Linux OS if you can't administrate it. Also, much software just will not work with Linux. It is still the geeky "other" OS versus windoze and mac, so if you use it, prepare to geek out. Also, (but I'm not 100% sure about this) some parts of ALL mac systems are based on Linux code, or maybe Unix, it's a weird grey area.

Parts of BSD and freeBSD were used by Apple way back when, now they use a Darwin kernel instead of BSD. Maybe BSD derivatives are still in the code, I do not know such things.

In linux with wine, (a little geekery comes in handy) I use IK, NI, KV331, Tone 2, and products from a trove of small commercial, freeware, and abandonware developers. discoDSP and U-he have excellent linux ports. There are a handful of native linux instruments and effects that get regular use, in and around the linux Reaper daw. I much prefer normal system tasks in linux compared to what I remember of windows, although Directory Opus made win 7 at least tolerable. So it's true that "much software just will not work with Linux", while also true that so much does work, that I'll always have far more than I'm capable of putting to good use. A win user can also say "much software just will not work with MacOS". Time, learning, and money, can get all three systems running under the same roof, should the need or desire exist. Clams at high tide

[kraster]

I honestly feel like I see 100 people complaining about obnoxious vegans for every obnoxious vegan

Windows XP

As someone who is vegan, I've mentioned it maybe once on here in 20 odd years, including saying it right now. You get used to the whole routine after a while, it just lets you know who has a suburban hyper conformist mentality when they A-know they are the dominant cultural trend, and B- cannot help but remind you when it comes up that you must be overbearing about it since you don't laugh at the exact same joke made 10,000 times. If you say anything at all they think that makes their point, as you see with buddy and his Mac diatribe. If anyone gets offended by his hatred and stereotyping then they are the weirdos. It's a clown show of insecurity hiding as bad jokes.

There are far more people complaining about putative "vegan nazis" than there are actual vegans.

It's kind of de rigeur nowadays.

People inventing things to get mad about to feed their persecution complexes.

[paulbreeze]

Also, (but I'm not 100% sure about this) some parts of ALL mac systems are based on Linux code, or maybe Unix, it's a weird grey area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_ ... stribution

BSD-derived code, along with Mach code, also formed the basis for Darwin; that, in turn, has been incorporated into Apple's proprietary operating systems, such as macOS and iOS.

Darwin, the basis for Apple's macOS and iOS, is based on 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD.

[pdxindy]

I honestly feel like I see 100 people complaining about obnoxious vegans for every obnoxious vegan

Windows XP

As someone who is vegan, I've mentioned it maybe once on here in 20 odd years, including saying it right now.

See, now you did it... just mentioning being vegan in front of carnists and you're automatically an obnoxious vegan.

[Dan Island]

So I'm confused here, is NI insolvency due to their diet?

[IvyBirds]

I honestly feel like I see 100 people complaining about obnoxious vegans for every obnoxious vegan

Windows XP

As someone who is vegan, I've mentioned it maybe once on here in 20 odd years, including saying it right now.

See, now you did it... just mentioning being vegan in front of carnists and you're automatically an obnoxious vegan.

They can't help but to mention it

[pdxindy]

Whoosh........

[markp]

Shoehorning veganism into an audio plugin forum is TIGHT!

[machinesworking]

Shoehorning veganism into an audio plugin forum is TIGHT!

You've been here in some capacity since 2018, you should know by now it takes about 8-10 pages before a topic opens up to anything but the topic. I think we've already had the obligatory 5 pages of two people arguing quoting each other until it's one multi quote post per page.

[Grizzellda]

Do you think PA, Brainworx and iZotope will survive when NI does not make it?

Well, NI should make it, I would like to think, man they brought us some cool products, who would dare deny that. What began as Generator became Reaktor, is this correct?

They also make beautiful hardware, in my view!!

Yeah, so I am an Canadian asshole over here, calling on NI to keep going and give the world some good solid German engineering products! Grizzellda LUVS products!!! MORE PRODUCTS!!!