Zebra 3 Public Beta 3 Revision 20977

[pdxindy]

no good presets

If you had said there aren't as many as I hoped for, or something like that, okay. But none? That just means you're trolling. I don't believe you're sincere at all. Viktor is wasting his time responding to you.

[OrionAlpha101]

here we go again,i found 20 sounds that were okay.

[aMUSEd]

If they had only qualified their remarks with 'for me' maybe this sort of feedback would make more sense but to simply say there are 'no good presets' seems more designed to simply get people's backs up as it implies those of us who think most of them are amazing have no taste and the entire sound design team who worked hard on these are crap and wasted their hard work. That sort of arrogant feedback is designed to insult, not inform.

[ThoughtExperiment]

here we go again,i found 20 sounds that were okay.

Don't strain yourself

20 sounds that are 'okay' out of, what, 300?

Obviously not a troll then...

[digimidi]

Just downloaded this, thanks for adding MPE. It does look like MPE and +-48 pitch bend is not working in this build. You can do +-2 bends with MPE, but not the full 48. Thanks.

[Funky40]

I completely agree with you wheelD no good presets

"good" is context sensitiv !

What´s a "good" preset for some solo dabbling at home at a tranquile sunday afternoon, might totally NOT work out in anyones next production.

And even what works "in a production" or "in a band in live play context" will completly depend on some further context.

It has been said often enough throughout forums from folks who actaully have seen pro level studio work, if you solo listen to solo tracks from within great productions, great tracks, the soloed tracks sound often enough like shit.

So when "You" say: "its bad presets, what`s the context for that judgment" ?
i say that in all fairness......yet it´s really just a rhetorical question from my side

The sounds are simply useless to me.

When i find a plugin useless, that`s actually great for me. Cause i nolonger have to look into it. No need to lose any further thought.....i just move forward.
Time saved ! Money saved !

If something is not for you, just move along, no ?


sorry for disturbance ! I just had to......since i see from where it`s coming / edited: just this line

[charlee8t]

I have a question, mostly out of curiosity and to get a better understanding of the tools. Is there a way to extend the range of the modulators? I can't seem to find a way to modulate the panning, for example, from -100 to 100.
Thanks!

[aMUSEd]

Having finally got through all the presets my main constructive 'criticism' is - much as I love the Twinkles effect, I can see lots of the team also loved it and consequently it's becoming a bit overused in my opinion. Whereas some of the other OSC and also spectral fx could be explored more (esp the clusters stuff)

[zvenx]

If they had only qualified their remarks with 'for me' maybe this sort of feedback would make more sense but to simply say there are 'no good presets' seems more designed to simply get people's backs up as it implies those of us who think most of them are amazing have no taste and the entire sound design team who worked hard on these are crap and wasted their hard work. That sort of arrogant feedback is designed to insult, not inform.

This!!!
rsp

[exmatproton]

I'm saying the presets are bad, not the plugin. You just can't seem to figure that out.I've been a customer for a long time; please put more effort into the sounds.Thank you

Luckily, you can make your own f****** presets. Go and make your own presets. E n j o y the making of your presets. Open the plugin, start with a clean patch (or not) and DIY. Thoroughly enjoy the journey towards your OWN presets. You can call them patches as well btw.

Luckily, you can make your own f****** patches. Go and make your own patches. E n j o y the making of your patches. Open the plugin, start with a clean preset (or not) and DIY. Thoroughly enjoy the journey towards your OWN patches. You can call them presets as well btw.

(ad infinitum)

[Urs]

It's bit odd to say "you've heard it all before" and then asking for presets that sound like JMJ, Depeche Mode and Vangelis, isn't it?

Nevermind, truth be told, we did not want too many of those sounds in Zebra 3, simply because pretty much every other synth already has umpteen dozens of variations of those. What good would it do for Zebra 3 to sound like everything else? All that development and effort just repeat what has been done ad nauseam...?

Zebra 3 has a bunch of unique capabilities, and we encouraged sound designers to bring them out (yes, apparently a lot of "crystal heaven pads" and such). Zebra 3 also has a very wide sonic territory, and we want to cover a broad spectrum. There is a good chance that the spectrum is so wide that some people will only like 10% or even 1% of the presets, others may enjoy a third or half of them, I don't know.

It's unlikely that our approach to sound design satisfies everyone's needs, but that is also not the point of this factory library. While it does have hundreds of instantly usable bread and butter presets, it's also a showcase of where things can go. And that is a lot further than many synths, whether everyone needs that or not. A lot of the Z2 folks surely do.

I guess preset-oriented people who can only appreciate like 2% of the presets are probably better off checking back in a year or two when 3rd party sound designers fill the perceived gaps. Which I'm sure they will, simply because Zebra 3 starts with a huge user base and a non-competitive market for sound banks.

[SteveElbows]

Just downloaded this, thanks for adding MPE. It does look like MPE and +-48 pitch bend is not working in this build. You can do +-2 bends with MPE, but not the full 48. Thanks.

For me its broken in a sometimes complicated way.

In Ableton, cannot get the broad pitch bend range in MPE mode at all, regardless of MPE button enabled in Ableton, MPE button active in perform section of Zebra 3, and even with pitch bend ranges set to MPE in the performance section of Zebra 3.

In Bitwig, can get VST3 version of Zebra 3 to bend the right sort of amount with MPE enabled for the plugin instance in Bitwig, and with Zebra Perform section pitch bends both set to MPE. However, if I enable the main MPE button in Zebra 3, the bending is then slightly off, not by a huge amount but enough for things to sound slightly out of tune. Did a side by side comparison with other plugins to make sure it wasnt anything I was doing wrong more broadly. Same story with Clap version in Bitwig, except there is no MPE button that needs activating in the Bitwig plugin instance settings. Still have the problem of the tuning of the note I bend to being slightly off, as soon as the main Zebra 3 MPE button is activated. Used init preset in Zebra 3 for this testing to eliminate other variables.

[SteveElbows]

Just downloaded this, thanks for adding MPE. It does look like MPE and +-48 pitch bend is not working in this build. You can do +-2 bends with MPE, but not the full 48. Thanks.

In Ableton, cannot get the broad pitch bend range in MPE mode at all, regardless of MPE button enabled in Ableton, MPE button active in perform section of Zebra 3, and even with pitch bend ranges set to MPE in the performance section of Zebra 3.

And after further testing, same story in Logic Pro as Ableton, bend range very small even when other aspects of MPE are working properly.

[SteveElbows]

edit - sorry, I finally found bug report thread so moved my detailed post there instead.

[tasmaniandevil]

We are aware of issues with the MPE pitch bend, thanks, guys.