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IvyBirds wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 6:28 pm
Seluvis wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 1:04 pm That's a lot of dosh for anyone who isn't invested into the eco system.
Obviously those who have related hardware units will be happy.
There is zero need to own any of the hardware units or be invested in the ecosystem in anyway

This replaces the hardware units. The plugin comes with the improved factory sample library and a bunch of presets

You actually get more with the plugin than someone who spent $3,000 on an SY77 in 1989 (almost 8 Grand in 2026 money) or $2000-$2500 for the TG77 in 1990.

There seems to be massive confusion that this is like one of the emulators from "The Usual Suspects" that you need to download a ROM or BIN file for it to work

You don't, while it can load old ROM files for extra sample content or presets there is zero reason to and the overwhelming vast majority of presets on the Internet are total crap anyway

The plugin itself very shortly will be able to load any samples you want. That feature will BLOW AWAY the original hardware and is something I would have killed for in 1990

Buy Swayed because it's a kick ass FM synth that you can layer with your own user samples or incorporate those samples into the FM sound engine
To add to this, the SY77 is special. I've definitely seen multiple people say something about FM all being more or less the same because it's all just 1's and 0's. It's definitely not. Even if we just look at Yamaha and even if we ignore specific feature sets (number of operators, AWM, effects, etc) there is a unique character to each of them. The SY77 is not just a souped up DX7 that you can layer with samples. It has a brilliant and punchy sound that in my experience you just could not get from any other gear, and believe me, I've tried. So Swayed is not just another FM VST, it really is the only thing that will give you that sound without buying the hardware. And as IvyBirds points out, there are distinct advantages to this over the hardware anyway. I have a TG77 sitting next to my desk at home and I can testify that Swayed is remarkably faithful.

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cvale wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 7:11 pm To add to this, the SY77 is special. I've definitely seen multiple people say something about FM all being more or less the same because it's all just 1's and 0's. It's definitely not. Even if we just look at Yamaha and even if we ignore specific feature sets (number of operators, AWM, effects, etc) there is a unique character to each of them. The SY77 is not just a souped up DX7 that you can layer with samples. It has a brilliant and punchy sound that in my experience you just could not get from any other gear, and believe me, I've tried. So Swayed is not just another FM VST, it really is the only thing that will give you that sound without buying the hardware. And as IvyBirds points out, there are distinct advantages to this over the hardware anyway. I have a TG77 sitting next to my desk at home and I can testify that Swayed is remarkably faithful.
Totally agree, and I will say not only is the SY77 not just a souped up DX7 l, it sounds awesome alongside it either with layering or just in additional tracks. For decades I had my TG77 and DX7s at every gig

So even if you already have a DX7 plugin that you like Swayed is an awesome companion to that.

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Collusion wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2026 4:31 pm All my old SY77 patches transferred and sounding exactly as I remember!
Unfortunately, many patches in Swayed don't sound as good as in SY/TG77. I can definitely say that the chorus effect in Swayed sounds much worse.
cvale wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 7:11 pm I have a TG77 sitting next to my desk at home and I can testify that Swayed is remarkably faithful.
Compare, for example, the "Itopia" patch and you will hear the difference in sound.

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Pharao wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:58 am Compare, for example, the "Itopia" patch and you will hear the difference in sound.
Sounds identical to me, except Swayed has clearer high-end. You can roll it off with a filter or EQ if that bothers you. That patch in particular doesn't even use FM, just two AWM (sample) slots, so it's not like there's some subtle FM lookup table+math precision thing going on. It only uses reverb and doesn't use chorus or other mod FX.

Also, Swayed doesn't claim to be bit-identical. Just really close. I don't think there are many SY77 patches that push the extreme limits of the parameters to such a high precision that you are likely to hear any meaningful difference, especially if FM isn't being used.

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Pharao wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:58 am
Collusion wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2026 4:31 pm All my old SY77 patches transferred and sounding exactly as I remember!
Unfortunately, many patches in Swayed don't sound as good as in SY/TG77. I can definitely say that the chorus effect in Swayed sounds much worse.
cvale wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 7:11 pm I have a TG77 sitting next to my desk at home and I can testify that Swayed is remarkably faithful.
Compare, for example, the "Itopia" patch and you will hear the difference in sound.
I haven't compared that one specifically. The only patches that to me do sound a bit different are actually the ones that use the basic piano waveform. Oddly enough, this is the only one where there is a rather clear discrepancy between the Swayed re-creation and the original waveform.

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Pharao wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:58 am
Collusion wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2026 4:31 pm All my old SY77 patches transferred and sounding exactly as I remember!
Unfortunately, many patches in Swayed don't sound as good as in SY/TG77. I can definitely say that the chorus effect in Swayed sounds much worse.
cvale wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 7:11 pm I have a TG77 sitting next to my desk at home and I can testify that Swayed is remarkably faithful.
Compare, for example, the "Itopia" patch and you will hear the difference in sound.
Wow so you are saying that patches that are 100% sample based that are using different samples sound a bit different?

Next you are going to tell us that the Violin samples in a Fairlight CMI sound different from those in a Korg M1 which sound nothing like those in a Spitfire Library

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Pharao wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:58 am I can definitely say that the chorus effect in Swayed sounds much worse.
I guess you're referring to the Yamaha Symphonic effect? FWIW, Overloud and Neyrinck make plugin versions of it.

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Hi,

I have just imported in Swayed the preset programs stored in my SY77 RAM bank. I organise the presets in my SY77 RAM bank according to the instrument type (bass, pianos, pads, percussion, etc). In Swayed, the created bank show all the presets in alphabetical order, not preserving the order they were stored in the original SY77 bank ¿Am I doing something wrong? There should be an option to show the presets in a bank in the order they were originally stored.

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So where's 1.0.3?
We still can't use Swayed safely in projects. These bugs should have been resolved in beta testing.
Most people don't like being beta testers. :D
Wherever this bizarre "EvilDragon" character is involved, there's a mess :lol:
Maybe do your job instead of spamming the forums :hihi:
The sound is right, but no one thought it would be good to switch presets by keyboard arrows!?

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Pretty sure I'm not the one who is bizarre here. I was not the only beta tester, and people are using Swayed in a lot of projects already.

Changing presets with arrow keys works inside the big preset browser, maybe you should actually try and use this plugin?

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IvyBirds wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 6:28 pm You actually get more with the plugin than someone who spent $3,000 on an SY77 in 1989 (almost 8 Grand in 2026 money) or $2000-$2500 for the TG77 in 1990.
Yeah I know its completely insane.
Synclavier I (1977–1978)
Launch Price Range: Between $200,000 and $500,000.
Synclavier V by Arturia for $149.00
Beware of the gatekeepers and attack dogs and stay safe.

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Seluvis wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 9:30 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2026 6:28 pm You actually get more with the plugin than someone who spent $3,000 on an SY77 in 1989 (almost 8 Grand in 2026 money) or $2000-$2500 for the TG77 in 1990.
Yeah I know its completely insane.
Synclavier I (1977–1978)
Launch Price Range: Between $200,000 and $500,000.
Synclavier V by Arturia for $149.00
And it does more, 12 partials instead of 4, additive waveforms on the modulator for FM, 99 frames instead of 50

As a total FM Nerd I am in total heaven these days. Synclavier V for Synclavier FM, OPS7 for the ultimate DX7 emulator, SWAYED for SY77, and FM Lab inside of HALion7 for FS1R inspired modern FM all with extra features

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@sheaf As a TG77 owner for a few years now, very excited to see this come out. Excellent work, I'm really enjoying it.

It would be great if synth controls were also available as parameters in a DAW. Not sure this has been requested already, but hands-on control such as using Bitwig device preset controls would this take to the next level.

Also, did I hear correctly that sample import will come in the future?

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EvilDragon wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2026 8:47 pm Pretty sure I'm not the one who is bizarre here. I was not the only beta tester, and people are using Swayed in a lot of projects already.

Changing presets with arrow keys works inside the big preset browser, maybe you should actually try and use this plugin?
[Unnecessary reference to Nazis removed]

Well guess what, keyboard arrows don't work on every system! :x
Be of some use to sheaf and work on the plugin, instead of posting BS :dog:
I actually remember how fiercely you argued "JP-8000 can't be emulated in VST" :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mean, we now have dish washers more complex than JP, of course someone will reverse engineer a regular DSP chip - it's not alien technology :lol:

The sound is excellent on this one, but it should have been delayed for a couple of more months. There are too many bugs.

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Is there a chance that SWAYED could use the SY99 MAP for the internal presets? Just wondering. DL'd some SY99 SYX's but it don't seem to get well with SWAYED very well.

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