Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

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wagtunes wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:07 pm Here's what I don't understand, and maybe it's just my PC, though as new as it is I can't understand why. When I turn on multi core, especially for something like Diva, performance is worse. I mean dreadfully worse to the point where I can't use it.

So I don't get it. Why do people want multi core? It doesn't do me any good at all.
It's Cubase's fault, it's very finnicky when plugins try to do their own core handling.

No issues here on Reaper - toggling MC in Diva reduces CPU load as it should.

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EvilDragon wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:37 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:07 pm Here's what I don't understand, and maybe it's just my PC, though as new as it is I can't understand why. When I turn on multi core, especially for something like Diva, performance is worse. I mean dreadfully worse to the point where I can't use it.

So I don't get it. Why do people want multi core? It doesn't do me any good at all.
It's Cubase's fault, it's very finnicky when plugins try to do their own core handling.

No issues here on Reaper - toggling MC in Diva reduces CPU load as it should.
Thanks. That probably explains it.

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It is interesting, how about unison engine? Will it replace Dune 3/ Hive 2 in that term?

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Not really, that's not what MX is about (like how Dune touts thousands of simultaneous oscillators). You can get extremely lush sounds from just a single voice, without any unison...

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wagtunes wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:39 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:37 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:07 pm Here's what I don't understand, and maybe it's just my PC, though as new as it is I can't understand why. When I turn on multi core, especially for something like Diva, performance is worse. I mean dreadfully worse to the point where I can't use it.

So I don't get it. Why do people want multi core? It doesn't do me any good at all.
It's Cubase's fault, it's very finnicky when plugins try to do their own core handling.

No issues here on Reaper - toggling MC in Diva reduces CPU load as it should.
Thanks. That probably explains it.
Which MC have then to be switch offed? From DAW or plugin? It's clear that it makes no sense to leave both on.
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Would be nice to see a bit more demos beside bro step 2.0 presets :D
I doubt it will has microtuning? That would be the missing thing for me. Or does it?

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mladi wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:23 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:39 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:37 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:07 pm Here's what I don't understand, and maybe it's just my PC, though as new as it is I can't understand why. When I turn on multi core, especially for something like Diva, performance is worse. I mean dreadfully worse to the point where I can't use it.

So I don't get it. Why do people want multi core? It doesn't do me any good at all.
It's Cubase's fault, it's very finnicky when plugins try to do their own core handling.

No issues here on Reaper - toggling MC in Diva reduces CPU load as it should.
Thanks. That probably explains it.
Which MC have then to be switch offed? From DAW or plugin? It's clear that it makes no sense to leave both on.
I only turned it on at the VST level. I never touch DAW settings.

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Cinebient wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:24 pm I doubt it will has microtuning? That would be the missing thing for me. Or does it?
I think it does, checking...


EDIT: Doesn't seem to have it. There are some scales for locking the unison voices to them, or chords (pretty interesting feature). That's not to say that at some point they wouldn't be including microtuning.


On the other hand, you can use the trackers to create your own tuning scale...

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EvilDragon wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:18 pm Not really, that's not what MX is about (like how Dune touts thousands of simultaneous oscillators). You can get extremely lush sounds from just a single voice, without any unison...
That is interesting. Thanks!
I hope there will be preset example with lush sound from single voice, whithout unison.

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Just to be clear. Is there no provision for "superwaves" on the x?

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There is, via wavetables. Also there's a myriad of ways to bend those wavetables into all sorts of interesting waveforms...

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It does have unison though, doesn't it?

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Yes. Just not a huge voice count unison.

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What I'm really wondering about on this one is the CPU hit. This may have already been covered several times in here, but damn man, its 89 pages of trawling!!

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Which other synth triggered nearly 100 pages of comments BEFORE its release?

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