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vstDOG · Post by **vstDOG** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:04 pm

xolax u might wanna register @Isratrance forum:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewforum.php/forum/2
You'll find heaps of valuable information and tutorials at the forum in regards to psytrance production.

Good Luck!

vstDOG

hoffy · Post by **hoffy** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:07 pm

oh yeah and check the tutorials on Cosmosis' site. He also has a bunch of patches you can download for linplug's albino and the access virus...

MacZero · Post by **MacZero** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:28 pm

runagate wrote:By no means does everyone here hate trance.
Just the people with personal integrity do.
But you have to wonder: why do so many people have so much trouble making the basic sounds of the most cliche-ridden genre that's ever existed? I mean the programs are actually set up to make it easy to make 8th notes with a repetetive, plodding feel. That's why techno exists: the medium of using a drum machine without knowing wtf you're doing just lends itself to the repetetive, mind-numbing idiocy that is "dance" music.

LOL runagate, you funny bastard. Try to be a bit more subtle next time man.

Even you know that "techno" and "psychedelic trance" are two different things. I mean, that's like saying "i don't know shit about dance music"...ANYWAYS

xolax:

There's heaps of dance music producers on this board btw. Don't feel like you can't post here!

As a psybreaks producer, isratrance gets the thumbs up from me. The international nature of it leads to so interesting translation artifacts

But you can find some great suff in there.

Psy is a constantly changing genre of dance music, I think the most important thing about writing it is actually a deep understanding of the psychedelic experience

Just bring back ideas that you get from your trips

Don't worry too much about copying your favorite artist's VIRUS patch. Do your own trippy stuff

As a poster above said, lots of modulation and processing, and minimal "big drops" or "cheezy supersaw leads" etc. A bit like runagate's revolt towards generic dance music. Fairly important too is immaculate production (become a master of production).

Glassback · Post by **Glassback** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:52 pm

xolax: if you can find them (their site seems to be down and external sites don't seem to be able to download these at the moment), then 3 pretty good synths for psytrance are by EYB.
Try and find:
Noized Sinex v1.0
FMSpiralator16
SimpleBass v1.0.1

You might find them entertaining.

(And free as well.)

chaseDESTROY · Post by **chaseDESTROY** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:44 pm

FLAME WAR!!!!! LETS DO THIS!

everyone sucks. and your respective genres are crap. ha!

no really, ive been able to get some extremely psychedelic/goa sounding arpeggiations using reason like a big modular synth since the addition of the combinator. malstrom is great for this (for using non-analouge sounding oscilators alongside the typical sounds).

holla at me if ya wanna get specific.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:17 pm

Still no clips?

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:21 pm

chaseDESTROY wrote:FLAME WAR!!!!! LETS DO THIS!

everyone sucks. and your respective genres are crap. ha!

no really, ive been able to get some extremely psychedelic/goa sounding arpeggiations using reason like a big modular synth since the addition of the combinator. malstrom is great for this (for using non-analouge sounding oscilators alongside the typical sounds).

holla at me if ya wanna get specific.

wow are you a trance making nigga?

holla!

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:23 pm

my pisspoor quick attempt on synth1!!!
YAY!!!

chaseDESTROY · Post by **chaseDESTROY** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:29 pm

trance making nigga?

well thats offensive.

over the past 10 years i've made just about every type of electronic music. yes, trance included. when you teach synthesis and sound design on the college level you get asked how to re-create a little bit of everything.

hoooolllllaaaa!!!

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:54 pm

Runagate: While we're at it why don't we make this forum 'hostile' to all those boring gangster wannabe hippity hoppers, & all those tedious 'minimal' technoists, not to mention the purveyors of long-winded same sounding 'downbeat', bloody guitar zealots with their insanely long threads about amps & am-sims (in which I have no interest whatsoever) & basically anyone who makes music, or who has questions about making music that you personally aren't interested in?
Let's have an entrance exam as well, get rid of all the annoying 'newbies' asking the types of questions that one so gifted as yourself obviously never had to ask or ponder.
Maybe it's because KVR is a community of developers, musicians, producers & layabouts like me with varied interests, who are interested in various genres who are all different & (apart from obvious trolls) could learn from each other & perhaps at least attempt to be respectful towards each other.
Or we could just let it be your own personal playground - perhaps you & whoever your 'clique' is would enjoy that?
No disrespect intended, just found your elitist & condescending attitude offensive.
By the way I detest commercial trance intensely & don't have much interest in the Psy or goa stuff - some fine production & ideas in there though & things I could & have learned by reading the relevant threads.
Oh let's get rid of all the dirty DnB boys & their incessant bassline & reecay peacey threads as well, they make me want to eat my teeth.

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:57 pm

diverdee gets a special "Defender of the Innocent" Caturday Point!!!

YAY!! happy bento!!!

EYB · Post by **EYB** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:46 pm

Yes, better join isratrance forum.

A lot of people here are just to narrow minded to help someone who uses the word 'trance'... or just cannot shut up instead start talking crap..

thats just lame.. especially because kvr 'can' be a useful forum...

xolax · Post by **xolax** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:19 pm

Theanks for the advice to those who actually gave it (living sounds and others). Im gonna go and register on those other boards to seek advice there. No clips at the moment - sorry

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:40 am

diverdee wrote:Runagate: While we're at it why don't we make this forum 'hostile' to all those boring gangster wannabe hippity hoppers, & all those tedious 'minimal' technoists, not to mention the purveyors of long-winded same sounding 'downbeat', bloody guitar zealots with their insanely long threads about amps & am-sims (in which I have no interest whatsoever) & basically anyone who makes music, or who has questions about making music that you personally aren't interested in?
Let's have an entrance exam as well, get rid of all the annoying 'newbies' asking the types of questions that one so gifted as yourself obviously never had to ask or ponder.
Maybe it's because KVR is a community of developers, musicians, producers & layabouts like me with varied interests, who are interested in various genres who are all different & (apart from obvious trolls) could learn from each other & perhaps at least attempt to be respectful towards each other.
Or we could just let it be your own personal playground - perhaps you & whoever your 'clique' is would enjoy that?
No disrespect intended, just found your elitist & condescending attitude offensive.
By the way I detest commercial trance intensely & don't have much interest in the Psy or goa stuff - some fine production & ideas in there though & things I could & have learned by reading the relevant threads.
Oh let's get rid of all the dirty DnB boys & their incessant bassline & reecay peacey threads as well, they make me want to eat my teeth.

You know, I have to say that while I think that runagate was less than tactful, I don't understand the way that the majority always becomes the beleaguered minority and attains victim status when confronted with hostility.

Trance, hiphop, DnB and other popular forms of electronic dance music constitute the subject matter of 98% of the posts in this forum. People who are interested in such music are solidly in the majority. And of course there are many other forums that deal with these genres as well. The occasional hostility that these genres and their practitioners encounter is statistically insignificant.

'Elitists' like runagate are harmless. And his remarks are much less offensive than the directly personal remarks directed at him by hoffy, which don't seem to have awakened the same moral indignation, though they were quite directly personal (unlike runagate's, which were quite general) and very crude.

But by all means, continue to discuss the production techniques of goa and psytrance.

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:59 am

'Elitists' like runagate are harmless.

This may be no big deal to you, but this is the Production Techniques forum, so trying to drive away people with sensible questions is to be frowned on IMO. It tests my patience in the same way that runagate claims his is tested with virus threads (hint: don't read them). So much so that I started the namecalling - I probably shouldn't have in retrospect.

And his remarks are much less offensive than the directly personal remarks directed at him by hoffy, which don't seem to have awakened the same moral indignation, though they were quite directly personal (unlike runagate's, which were quite general) and very crude.

I agree that the attacks on his music were uncalled for.

Goa and Psytrance production tips