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JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:28 am

Let me defend the plastic. I get the meaning.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:33 am

thejonsolo wrote:Let me defend the plastic. I get the meaning.

ok..that helps...

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:13 am

Good. Always eager to lend a hand where I can.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:21 pm

Best Service is now running a B1G1F sale on Tone 2: https://www.bestservice.de/tone2.html

Can a user buy Rayblaster and get another Tone 2 plug free, and still get Rayblaster 2 free when it is released?

Conditions stated at the page is that it "excluded are Tone2 Icarus, some up- and crossgrades, EDUs, gift vouchers and hardware."

VELLISLAV · Post by **VELLISLAV** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:11 pm

i'd like to see Firebird v.3 - don't understand why they abandoned such a cool synth

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:15 pm

thejonsolo wrote:Yes that is cool of them. I imagine it won't be revolutionary, but I like RayBlaster and hope the upgrade price is reasonable.

So, Tone 2 is doing it again. After releasing Rayblaster, it barely saw any update, and now they are milking the cow with an update/upgrade to get extra cash from users. Exactly how they did with Saurus and Electra.

mladi · Post by **mladi** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:23 pm

I had the same thoughts fmr.. ..i think i don't like their business model anymore.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:23 pm

fmr wrote:
thejonsolo wrote:Yes that is cool of them. I imagine it won't be revolutionary, but I like RayBlaster and hope the upgrade price is reasonable.
So, Tone 2 is doing it again. After releasing Rayblaster, it barely saw any update, and now they are milking the cow with an update/upgrade to get extra cash from users. Exactly how they did with Saurus and Electra.

But not all their gear, Gladiator has been at v2.x for close to 8 years now

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/tone2_rele ... or_2_10997

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:29 pm

Numanoid wrote:Best Service is now running a B1G1F sale on Tone 2: https://www.bestservice.de/tone2.html

Can a user buy Rayblaster and get another Tone 2 plug free, and still get Rayblaster 2 free when it is released?

Conditions stated at the page is that it "excluded are Tone2 Icarus, some up- and crossgrades, EDUs, gift vouchers and hardware."

I really wondered why they don't include Icarus in that sale, when i read that. It's not exactly that it is very "new" by now, and still they want people to pay full price. That, and their half-hearted black friday sale, which lasted a whole day (!), and the high transfer fee or 25 €, making their plugins basically NFR, paints a picture in my head. Really, i'd love to like them and their plugins, but, they're not exactly making that very easy.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:35 pm

Tone2 can be found on sale here and there, but I'd like a GForce sale.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:52 pm

Numanoid wrote:
fmr wrote:
thejonsolo wrote:Yes that is cool of them. I imagine it won't be revolutionary, but I like RayBlaster and hope the upgrade price is reasonable.
So, Tone 2 is doing it again. After releasing Rayblaster, it barely saw any update, and now they are milking the cow with an update/upgrade to get extra cash from users. Exactly how they did with Saurus and Electra.
But not all their gear, Gladiator has been at v2.x for close to 8 years now

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/tone2_rele ... or_2_10997

Gladiator was the one that got some "real" updates. And Icarus also got one significant update already. But the others are basically abandoned after release, and when they decide to pick them to update - well, better add some cosmetic stuff, and charge for it. And sometimes, the changes are even for worse, like it happenewd with Saurus. I'm still at version 1, and I am glad with it - but the lack of support makes me fear that sooner or later I will be stuck somewhere. Anyway, I am not planning to update Rayblaster either. The preliminary information seems like an update that should be done for free (like it happens with many other vendors).

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:00 am

Tone2 updates that were released this year or are work in progress are:

- Rayblaster 1.1
- Gladiator 2.5
- Warmverb Multi-FX 1.2.1
- Icarus 1.1
- Nemesis 1.2 Beta
- Rayblaster 2 (work in progress)

Besides that Icarrus was released that involved a LOT of work and time, not to forget that Markus is also heavily involved with sound design (both factotry presets and soundsets).

Bigger updates usually also include a bunch of additional presets and this will also be the case for Rayblaster 2.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:13 am

Does Rayblaster 2 have any core sound engine differences from Rayblaster 1?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:28 am

Well, while i am currently testing Raybaster 2 this time i will not tell details that are not officially mentioned on Facebook or Twitter yet (see the first 2 posts in this thread).

Link to the Tone2 Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/Tone2Audiosoftware/

This is a part of what was mentioned there:

...enhanced sound quality, extended sonic range and a large number of new features...

As also mentioned there now in Rayblaster 2 there will be drag&drop modulation like in Icarus v1.1.

Rayblaster sub-forum at the official forum:
http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?board=30.0

A Merry Christmas to all of you.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:00 pm

Out of curiosity, doesn't "enhanced sound quality" contradict "backwards compatible"? Would existing projects still sound the same? Or is it generally accepted that if the sound quality is better, a certain loose interpretation of backwards compatibility is okay?

Or is it simply so that you get to run V1 and V2 next to each other but V2 loads presets of V1 and renders them with better quality?

Ingo, can you post audio examples of the same preset run in V1 and V2?

Tone2 announces Rayblaster 2