Korg multi/poly

[lfm]

So they combined the KingKORG engine with the Modwave engine. That's actually pretty exciting stuff.

Maybe, but Korg forgot the part with a tube at the end on KingKorg that can remedy some of coldness to a digital synth.

Also why I got rid of my Opsix, even thinking to get an Elektron Analog Heat to spice up the analog flavour before entering a mix.

Had a lot of fun with Opsix and Wavestate but the moment I went over to my REV2 I felt this is huge difference
- no way I put those digital sounds into a mix and try to enhance them to deserve the space

So using REV2 as a 4 oscillator 8 voice synth(both layers of 16 voices) this deserves a place in mix a every time.

When you hear sounds that by themselves just amaze you, like I played this game Unmechanical and one track example


there is no going back from that. Listen to those bouncing sounds a little bit into that track(about 01:55). All that silk and fluff feel is just enchanting by itself.

Nothing I heard from Modwave, Multipoly series match that. Even though fun sounds, but cold that needs "fixing" later.

So decided to get rid of all synths but REV2 and really expand my imagination more since such a toolbox.
- 4 oscillators, 8 LFOs
- double VCF and VCA and Aux envelopes
- 8 gated sequencers
- about 40 modulation options

It's just getting better the more I use it. And don't need any effects either.

All the digital built quite a deal on effect section to fix up things.
- Nordlead 2X I had was maybe the exception

Revisited demos of TEO-5 and Moog Muse yesterday as possible contenders.
- will see what is said once they are released
- TEO comes beginning november here, Muse late november.

Muse is really something special, but quite a price tag too, even if probably worth it. If doing two layers and 4 voices that goes long enough.

[bmanic]

So they combined the KingKORG engine with the Modwave engine. That's actually pretty exciting stuff.

First impression is how they just reuse pots, screens, keybed, etc. to save money- so negative. Listening to the review though I can see an almost endless palette of sounds being made with this. Digital, sure, but SO many filter types and wave shape types and distortion types... Wow this thing is loaded! Seems like they threw everything and the kitchen sink into it.

Yeah, to my ears it sounded pretty damn good and in terms of features it's absolutely loaded!

[bmanic]

When you hear sounds that by themselves just amaze you, like I played this game Unmechanical and one track example

there is no going back from that. Listen to those bouncing sounds a little bit into that track(about 01:55). All that silk and fluff feel is just enchanting by itself.

It's so weird reading peoples opinions on sounds that are as simplistic and as vanilla as possible.. then somehow trying to convince themselves that it's all "due to being analog".

Those are some absolutely bog standard super simple sounds going into a filtered delay.

Has absolutely nothing to do with what can and can not be done with pretty much any basic decent synth, be it digital or analogue.

[lfm]

It's so weird reading peoples opinions on sounds that are as simplistic and as vanilla as possible.. then somehow trying to convince themselves that it's all "due to being analog".

Those are some absolutely bog standard super simple sounds going into a filtered delay.

Has absolutely nothing to do with what can and can not be done with pretty much any basic decent synth, be it digital or analogue.

I stand by what I said about analog. And sometimes simplicity is all that is needed when the core sound is so good.

Listening to the raw sound of KingKorg, Wavestate, Opsix, Nordlead it's just cold.
- those analog harmonics are not there
- and I had all those synths

Nordlead do this trick, you should always have unison enabled, then each key you press makes one voice on right channel and one on left, out of phase.
- then it sounds fuller

Most digital are built on effects, pretty much.

I listened to demos of Waldorf Quantum and Iridium where they compared output from filter.
- there is a reason Quantum was even created with analog filters and many times more expensive and fewer voices.
- Iridium was cold and boring tone

For the same reason I came to appreciate the american built guitars like Gibson, Fender, Taylor and Martin.
- you have the tone there from start
- very little needed further to "fix" in a mix

I would say also why the big studios spend so much more on preamps and microphones
- like $2000 preamps and the like on mikes
- you just get something that don't need "fixing" from start

Summing everything together, all those little "extras" from better gear of every component and you have a mix that just needs to set volume and pan pretty much.
- well, performance and all that musical parts of course
- but as sounds go

[cryophonik]

It certainly sounds good for a digital synth, but $900 for another cheaply built budget Korg synth with a terrible 3-octave keybed and no AT is a hard pass for me, not that I want any more synths right now anyway. This synth seems way too deep for such a limited interface and small screen, although the librarian/editor is a nice and useful addition. I’d definitely consider the soft synth version if/when it’s released.

[danatkorg]

Just curious - overpriced compared to what?

For me, while it's an interesting synth, it's about perceived value. i.e. It doesn't come across as premium hardware.

MAP is $899. It's a fantastic synth, and in many ways may be the highest-polyphony, best-sounding, most flexible analog modeling synth ever made - but at that price it's absolutely not intended to be "premium hardware." Instead, it's intended to be relatively affordable while sounding amazing - the phrase would be "punches above its weight."

It's lacking aftertouch and seemly requires little processing power.

Where did you get the idea that it's not processor-intensive? It's a quad-core ARM dedicated to synths and effects. My impression is that some in the synth community may overestimate both the cost and the processing power of the DSPs and ASICs commonly used in digital synths. In comparison, the CM4 is both significantly more expensive and significantly more powerful.

[danatkorg]

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[Hanz Meyzer]

Wow, very nice! This as a VST3 software (the gui is already done!) and also including a comb filter, and I would instantly buy it. Recent Korg's VAs and digitals have a very high quality. It even could almost replace a Korg Radias.

Would love to see Korg work even more on VAs and digitals. What I am dreaming of, is a digital workstation VST3, including all their current digitals within one synth. Maybe even possibilities to combine, intermodulate those. Just take the best from each of the synths

Korg simply are one of the algorithmic master creators. Just listen to these FX units This is certainly one of their core abilities.

And a software version of this would be a nice replacement for the quite dated software version of Mono/Poly.

[egbert101]

So decided to get rid of all synths but REV2 and really expand my imagination more since such a toolbox.
- 4 oscillators, 8 LFOs
- double VCF and VCA and Aux envelopes
- 8 gated sequencers
- about 40 modulation options

It's just getting better the more I use it. And don't need any effects either.

All the digital built quite a deal on effect section to fix up things.
- Nordlead 2X I had was maybe the exception

Revisited demos of TEO-5 and Moog Muse yesterday as possible contenders.
- will see what is said once they are released
- TEO comes beginning november here, Muse late november.

Muse is really something special, but quite a price tag too, even if probably worth it. If doing two layers and 4 voices that goes long enough.

I understand what you mean. If your focus is on quiet ambient pieces, then you probably won't like pure digital, but if you are going to have a busy mix with lots of elements, for example pop, then digital has a great place within it. I personally like combining the two.

[Korg Supporter]

Take a look at this: https://synthanatomy.com/2024/10/multi- ... swers.html

KORG's Dan Phillips said that this is a completely new synth engine with rewritten filters and an improved semi-weighted keybed. He also confirmed to me in Gearspace that the SEM filter is the same one from the Arp 2600 plugin!

[egbert101]

Take a look at this: https://synthanatomy.com/2024/10/multi- ... swers.html

KORG's Dan Phillips said that this is a completely new synth engine with rewritten filters and an improved semi-weighted keybed. He also confirmed to me in Gearspace that the SEM filter is the same one from the Arp 2600 plugin!

I own the original KingKORG and so I'm a huge fan of Korg's filter models. It's also great to see an oversampling option in the new Multi/Poly. Definitely need more demos of some classic poly and pad sounds or maybe a comparison video.

[zvenx]

Glanced at the synthanatomy link...
Minor correction, i dn't think Dan's team did the opsix, but did the rest.


I know I am looking forward to the software version (assuming there is one at some point).

even if the hardware was $200 it wouldn't interest me.
I somehow get the feeling that the software and hardware market are for the most part different.

I grew up on Hardware synths but unless i have a live gig (which I don't do anymore) or jamming (which i also don't do anymore), the hardware would not be of any interest to me.
Software is just too convenient for what i do and how i work.

My impression is the hardware of this and any synth are mainly for people who play live, or jam with other musicians, and of course some who like tactile interactions with their instruments (which i do too, just no longer with synths (pianos, guitars etc yes though).

my two cents.
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[kritikon]

Having watched that hour long Kermit review (didn't have a chance yesterday), I'll probably instabuy this when the plugin comes out. They certainly packed in the features and then some. Dual filters make it extremely versatile - I could do OSCar type shenanigans with it. I do like me some Korg hw, but not this sadly, but def a superb plugin at some time in the future. The wavetable stuff just doesn't interest me - Kermit ran through some of the wavetables and it's like every other wavetable synth...sounds fkn metallic and ghastly at base. Great if you do glitchy aggro type music I suppose and it certainly expands its palette. As a VA synth it competes with pretty well anything else out there IMO, and at that price possibly at the top. Must admit that SEM filter sounds good. It's pretty knobalicious and that alone tempts me, but not enough...I WILL resist.

Makes me wonder what else they're going to come up with - that's 4 pretty spectacular synths in this format and I don't feel they're resting on their laurels. Korg are still on fire IMO and I remain a fanboi, not ashamed to admit it even though they don't always hit my mark .

[trusampler]

Love to see Korg keep killing! I’ll definitely be interested in the plugin.

[egbert101]

I'm a bit of a Korg fan, but looking at some youtube videos on recent live bands, I do see Korg synths being used, including digital.