Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[BONES]

Don't want posts you worked on to be deleted? You're smart enough to know how to prevent it.

You'd think but you wouldn't believe how often I spend an hour or more putting one together, post it and close the tab without realising that it hadn't gone through because someone had posted while I was working on it. I lose a couple of hours worth a week, I reckon.

[perfumer]

Don't want posts you worked on to be deleted? You're smart enough to know how to prevent it.

You'd think but you wouldn't believe how often I spend an hour or more putting one together, post it and close the tab without realising that it hadn't gone through because someone had posted while I was working on it. I lose a couple of hours worth a week, I reckon.

Before hitting the Submit button, select all and copy all. I don't know the shortcuts on Mac, on Windows they are ctrl+A and ctrl+C. Then hit submit. If something fails, you got the whole post in the clipboard.

But Meffy was talking about something else...

[AnX]

no need to, Rich has made it quite clear at the beta forum, try looking at the very first post/sub forum title

Which is privileged information, not for general consumption at this time..

SA are making an OB Xa emulation is privileged information?

[digitalboytn]

I am fully erect with credit card in hand.

You may not need a synth...

It might be something else that you are after

A sampler?

A sampling

[kmonkey]

The upcoming plugin is based on an OB-Xa, not OB-X which technically is a quite big difference.

It was model misunderstanding on my part, though my general view is applicable to the point i was trying to make.

Thanks for your correction.

[kmonkey]

Is it? I only remember it because several of my favourite bands from the 1980s had one. I don't recall it being spectacularly good or anything, although this emulation is pretty damned good.

No seriously. I won't go into whoever care what you can remember it isn't implication of product quality if you can not remember it (was that you throwing an axe or you jut being you? Maybe i am just valuing my KVR character too much - that be it for sure).

What i tend to believe in (it's not scientific claim-it's my experience) is that some product is recognisable not because of one sound but if synth(product) is mentioned a lot then for sure it isn't because one band used it at some point. I must say i haven't used real OB-Xa. My point is that certain things are mentioned and they lived up to their expectations, even way longer because they are worth something.

I am drifting offtopic - looking forward to this release.

[Echoes in the Attic]

no need to, Rich has made it quite clear at the beta forum, try looking at the very first post/sub forum title

Which is privileged information, not for general consumption at this time..

SA are making an OB Xa emulation is privileged information?

No. He has discussed it long ago publicly. I think someone wants to feel important...

[AnX]

I was being sarcastic

[Meffy]

Don't want posts you worked on to be deleted? You're smart enough to know how to prevent it.

You'd think but you wouldn't believe how often I spend an hour or more putting one together, post it and close the tab without realising that it hadn't gone through because someone had posted while I was working on it. I lose a couple of hours worth a week, I reckon.

That's a legitimate concern. At the bottom of the text editor box, I'm seeing three buttons — Save Draft, Preview, and Submit. If Save Draft doesn't work for you (I haven't tried it so I can't say if it will suit you), then Perfumer's method will.

[eta] The Save Draft button didn't appear until I clicked the Full Editor and Preview button. Give it a try. I'm entirely in agreement that losing a post you've worked on is a royal pain. This should help.

[Scotty]

Commenting on the Juno 60 and its limitations.

It is undeniably very limited. It sounds fantastic to me but I don't think you can reasonably argue that it is highly versatile. If you are more of a live performer then those limitations can be a deal breaker. A lot of Bone's comments around versatility of synths seem to be informed by live performance demands. I am more of a studio cave dweller. In a studio setting, given ample space, you can afford to keep some gear around that just sounds good for what it is and not be too concerned about what it isn't. In a live setting, a few pieces of gear have to cover wide range of sonic territory.

I just ordered that tubebutech Juno 66 kit to open it up a bit more. I love the core sound but I am looking forward to expanding it with this kit. https://tubbutec.de/juno-66/ -

Main features
Midi in- and output. Can output key presses, arpeggiator, Powerarp and chord memory.
Additional play modes: Polyphonic, Duophonic, Three-Voice, Two Monophonic modes, Chord Memory and Polychord. The Mono- and Duophonic modes feature adjustable fatness
Portamento for all play modes with adjustable speed and behaviour
Powerarp: A powerful sequencer that includes breaks and note lengths and can be triggered by the arp clock, trigger, midi clock or midi trigger. Features various direction, transpose and random modes.
Two additional filter LFOs: A triangular LFO with a frequency of up to 2.2kHz and a S/H style LFO with various clock sources.
A second ADSR for the filter.
Detuning. Turns your Juno into an organic analogue synth.
Alternative tunings: Select from a range of non-equal tempered tunings or upload a custom scale.
Midi filter, pitch bend, arp and portamento control.
Settings via an internal configuration menu or external midi controller.
Extra features accessible using the existing Juno controls
Comes with sticker overlays and all necessary parts
For a complete list of features please refer to the user manual.

[mholloway]

Commenting on the Juno 60 and its limitations.

It is undeniably very limited. It sounds fantastic to me but I don't think you can reasonably argue that it is highly versatile. If you are more of a live performer then those limitations can be a deal breaker. A lot of Bone's comments around versatility of synths seem to be informed by live performance demands. I am more of a studio cave dweller. In a studio setting, given ample space, you can afford to keep some gear around that just sounds good for what it is and not be too concerned about what it isn't. In a live setting, a few pieces of gear have to cover wide range of sonic territory.

I just ordered that tubebutech Juno 66 kit to open it up a bit more. I love the core sound but I am looking forward to expanding it with this kit. https://tubbutec.de/juno-66/ -

Main features
Midi in- and output. Can output key presses, arpeggiator, Powerarp and chord memory.
Additional play modes: Polyphonic, Duophonic, Three-Voice, Two Monophonic modes, Chord Memory and Polychord. The Mono- and Duophonic modes feature adjustable fatness
Portamento for all play modes with adjustable speed and behaviour
Powerarp: A powerful sequencer that includes breaks and note lengths and can be triggered by the arp clock, trigger, midi clock or midi trigger. Features various direction, transpose and random modes.
Two additional filter LFOs: A triangular LFO with a frequency of up to 2.2kHz and a S/H style LFO with various clock sources.
A second ADSR for the filter.
Detuning. Turns your Juno into an organic analogue synth.
Alternative tunings: Select from a range of non-equal tempered tunings or upload a custom scale.
Midi filter, pitch bend, arp and portamento control.
Settings via an internal configuration menu or external midi controller.
Extra features accessible using the existing Juno controls
Comes with sticker overlays and all necessary parts
For a complete list of features please refer to the user manual.

Here's what I originally said about the Juno: I can make a wide range of sounds with it. That's it. I wasn't writing the chiseled-in-stone, can't-be-deleted for all time encyclopedic definition of the Juno's 60's Amazing Versatility as a Synth. I said: I can make a wide range of sounds with it. You know, basses. Leads. Pads. Plucks. Stuff with PWM. Stuff with high resonance. Stuff with use of the inverted envelope. All this, to me, meant: A wide range of sounds. That was it. Bones then decided I needed a deep & rude schooling because the Juno 60 is the least versatile synth of all time and how could I not know that etc, etc.

We really don't need to break this down any further, it wasn't even a discussion. It was, one dude likes a synth, another dude calls him an idiot for liking that thing. You know, pretty typical KVR.

Let's move on, get back to the OT, and let Juno lovers love their Junos, yeah?

[Scotty]

I was interesting in the comments, apart from Bones unnecessarily aggressive approach, he has a take on things that I sometimes agree with. I really like my Juno 60... I wouldn’t go out of my way to claim that if you couldn’t eek out a sound you needed or desired that there was a problem with you as opposed to the limitation of the synth. It is what is, simple and fantastic sounding in some applications. You most certainly said a whole lot more than you have summarized above. I am done...probably had too much time on my hands today.

[mholloway]

You most certainly said a whole lot more than you have summarized above.

Huh? You realize my post is still in this thread, right?
Here is my original comment on the Juno 60:

"So incredibly simple and straightforward, yet you can do so, so much with it."

In response to Bones insults, I described the oscillator to him, since he said it couldn't do anything useful. That was also about one sentence.

And then, my summary: I can make a wide variety of sounds with this synth.

That's it. Read your comment above again and tell me you're anywhere in the vicinity of reality.

[mholloway]

dbl post.

[izonin]

Wow, the KVR effect in action. So unique to this forum.

I swear, not a single topic without s*** splattered all over it.