Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[Teksonik]

Anyway for the love of God Synapse please release OBsession so we can start a new thread and discuss the actual synth and not screenshots and demo sounds.

[PAK]

I'm going to be interested to test Pads and Brass on this Vs the SEM emulation in bx_Oberhausen - which is one of my current go-to for lucious Pads

If you really like yer brass sound, you'd arguably be better served by OB-XA V than either. The specific reason is its modulation system allows you to draw independent pitch curves for oscillator 1 and 2, which really helps with brass sounds, as well giving control over the attack stage of a bunch of other stuff. In typical fashion, many of Arturia's bundled presets make "limited use" of the features, so you'd have to create your own to get the best out of it.

There's also Diva. Thanks to its detune control over 6 "stacks", combined with detune control over 48 oscillators (24 doubled), it's fairly easy to make huge brass sounds with it.. ie bigger than you'd ever be reasonably likely to use.

Unless Obsession is bringing more aspects related to control (over the attack etc) than has been stated, then it'd likely have its work cut out to distinguish itself over the competition in such areas..

[AnX]

These personal posts about Wags are out of order IMO.

i dont think they are really him

[Teksonik]

Unless Obsession is bringing more aspects related to control (over the attack etc) than has been stated, then it'd likely have its work cut out to distinguish itself over the competition in such areas..

Certainly better to wait for the OBsession Demo instead of speculating.

[Ingonator]

I'm going to be interested to test Pads and Brass on this Vs the SEM emulation in bx_Oberhausen - which is one of my current go-to for lucious Pads

If you really like yer brass sound, you'd arguably be better served by OB-XA V than either. The specific reason is its modulation system allows you to draw independent pitch curves for oscillator 1 and 2, which really helps with brass sounds, as well giving control over the attack stage of a bunch of other stuff. In typical fashion, many of Arturia's bundled presets make "limited use" of the features, so you'd have to create your own to get the best out of it.

There's also Diva. Thanks to its detune control over 6 "stacks", combined with detune control over 48 oscillators (24 doubled), it's fairly easy to make huge brass sounds with it.. ie bigger than you'd ever be reasonably likely to use.

Unless Obsession is bringing more aspects related to control (over the attack etc) than has been stated, then it'd likely have its work cut out to distinguish itself over the competition in such areas..

In OBsession you can route both main envelopes to the pitch of each of the oscillators and the Step LFO can serve as additional envelopes (in One shot mode).

OBsession has a dual mode, a 16 voice mode (where a 16 voice Unison is possible...) and the voice trimmers for each voice. With that it is possible to create quite fat sounds using 4 physical Oscs and detuned voices + Oscs.

I had used that "trick" with this patch that uses the dual mode:
OBSession - Synth Brass Demo 09

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Any of the Page 2 features of the OB-8 find their way into OBsession? Before some nerd chimes in with "but it's not an OB-8 emulation" or "the OB-8 used different chips" I'd point out that OBsession already inherited features from the OB-Xa's siblings and therefore also adding the Page 2 features from the OB-8 would be entirely in line with the spirit of this emulation.

[AnX]

Any of the Page 2 features of the OB-8 find their way into OBsession?

such as?

[PAK]

Certainly better to wait for the OBsession Demo instead of speculating.

The mod system implemented in OB-XA V is not speculation. Unless Obsession has implemented a similar curve drawing system, which I doubt, OB-XA V will give someone more control over the pitch during the attack stage, which is a prime factor in creating synth brass sounds which go a bit beyond "more typical" territory.

Even in that "more typical" zone, it'd have its job cut out against Diva for the stated reasons. There's always dual layer to help, I suppose.

[AnX]

it's not diva, it's an obxa emu with some bells and whistles

the two are really not comparable

[wagtunes]

These personal posts about Wags are out of order IMO.

You know what? I don't give a crap anymore. Since I'm the only one who gets suspended for stepping out of line, I just have to sit back and let it roll off my back.

It's all good. You know what they says, what goes around comes around.

Have a good day guys.

[wagtunes]

You sure pretend to know a lot about me. Years since? I sold my hardware (all of it) in 2016. I had things that were collectors items and if I wasn't so desperate for money, I could have held out for a lot more than I got for it. But oh well, those are the breaks.

Well 2020 to 2016 is years ago so.....

You keep on pretending you know all about my life and what I did and what I didn't do.

I don't pretend to know anything about you.

I've simply seen you express fervent adoration for the OB here, that you sold yours and never purchased another one.

That seems like it would make you the perfect target audience for OBsession.

It does make me a perfect audience. I didn't buy Arturia's because I wasn't happy with the resonance. I'm sure Obsession will be a lot better and am looking forward to it.

And yes, I owned a lot of old synths and the Oberheims were my favorite hands down.

[Yorrrrrr]

it's not diva, it's an obxa emu with some bells and whistles

the two are really not comparable

Yes, why is this so hard to understand...

And at that, Obsession kills any other OB-Xa emu and Frankenstein DIVA. It is the first proper analog polyphonic synthesizer emulation software, IMHO.

[PAK]

In OBsession you can route both main envelopes to the pitch of each of the oscillators

So each osc can have its own independent curve at the same time? That helps, but the issue is you still need to use those envelopes for other stuff, and it's still not the same freedom as having the ability to draw the curve yourself, as with Arturia's system.

the Step LFO can serve as additional envelopes (in One shot mode).

This would need clarification. You can use the steps to kind of "draw" the envelope shape followed, right? Even that raises questions of whether it'd "step" or smooth transitions between each step, as well as whether more than one could be assigned (Arturia's system allows 4, of up to 20 seconds.. )

OBsession has a dual mode, a 16 voice mode (where a 16 voice Unison is possible...) and the voice trimmers for each voice. With that it is possible to create quite fat sounds using 4 physical Oscs and detuned voices + Oscs.

Do the trimmers allow you to (at least) adjust the attack timing of each voice, in addition to things like resonance? Despite the length of this thread, the information in this area has been very vague..

[Yorrrrrr]

Wait for the demo.

[Ingonator]

Certainly better to wait for the OBsession Demo instead of speculating.

The mod system implemented in OB-XA V is not speculation. Unless Obsession has implemented a similar curve drawing system, which I doubt, OB-XA V will give someone more control over the pitch during the attack stage, which is a prime factor in creating synth brass sounds which go a bit beyond "more typical" territory.

Even in that "more typical" zone, it'd have its job cut out against Diva for the stated reasons. There's always dual layer to help, I suppose.

Quite funny that some are complaining about including the advanced features while others complain about having too few. No matter how you do it there will always be complaints.

Advanced features in the Arturia plugin like the Function generators do not really matter much for me if sound wise IMHO it is much worse than OBsession. Diva is another story but it is not exactly an Oberheim emulation besides having the Uhbie filter.