SWAY - a synth modeled after the Yamaha SY77

[seafire]

Please make VST2 version for Windows 7 and old versions of Cubase!

I don't think you can commercially make or release new VST2 plugins any more, due to Steinberg's discontinuation of the VST2 development kit license.

You can.

[EvilDragon]

You can if you've acquired the VST2 SDK and signed the contract before Aug 2018 (or so?), AND if you didn't sign the latest VST3 SDK contract, which explicitly forbids you from releasing VST2 plugins (there is a clause to make all previous VST related contracts null and void). I assume sheaf likely didn't make it through the first requirement mentioned, so I would not expect a VST2 version of SWAY. But a CLAP will be nice.

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You can if you've acquired the VST2 SDK and signed the contract before Aug 2018 (or so?), AND if you didn't sign the latest VST3 SDK contract, which explicitly forbids you from releasing VST2 plugins (there is a clause to make all previous VST related contracts null and void). I assume sheaf likely didn't make it through the first requirement mentioned, so I would not expect a VST2 version of SWAY. But a CLAP will be nice.

IMHO, SWAY should go the DSP56300 way. They do everything - VST2, VST3, they would even do 32bit version if it was possible. And if the synth is good, people will donate money. No doubt. I would (and did for DSP56300 project).

But if author (Sheaf) chooses purely commercial path, then of course he's bound by these silly, ridiculous contracts! I hope he gives up doing a commercial release, I mean, it's almost an emulation of SY77, it's certainly not original instrument...

It would be a pity to restrict this machine to VST3 just because Steiny says so

[gentleclockdivider]

But if author (Sheaf) chooses purely commercial path, then of course he's bound by these silly, ridiculous contracts! I hope he gives up doing a commercial release, I mean, it's almost an emulation of SY77, it's certainly not original instrument...

So you're basically saying he should release it as open source ?
The majority of releases are clones of the originals and some of them are almost a 1:1 copy of the original (plogue ) , so all of these should be released for free ?
Got it
Me thinks you're a bit too detached from reality

[silikonanswer]

Any news regarding release date and price?

[EvilDragon]

IMHO, SWAY should go the DSP56300 way. They do everything - VST2, VST3, they would even do 32bit version if it was possible. And if the synth is good, people will donate money. No doubt. I would (and did for DSP56300 project).

DSP56300 team provides VST2 because one of the developers involved does have a VST2 license that is still valid. That's the only reason why. If they didn't have that developer, there would be no VST2 of the emulator either.

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But if author (Sheaf) chooses purely commercial path, then of course he's bound by these silly, ridiculous contracts! I hope he gives up doing a commercial release, I mean, it's almost an emulation of SY77, it's certainly not original instrument...

So you're basically saying he should release it as open source ?
The majority of releases are clones of the originals and some of them are almost a 1:1 copy of the original (plogue ) , so all of these should be released for free ?
Got it
Me thinks you're a bit too detached from reality

Are only m***** coming here now?
Since you're properly attached to reality, why don't you invest in Ryzen 11 with DDR6 so you can run VST4 cloned synth. Oh and don't forget TPM and 1:1 snapshot of your system in the cloud!!!

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IMHO, SWAY should go the DSP56300 way. They do everything - VST2, VST3, they would even do 32bit version if it was possible. And if the synth is good, people will donate money. No doubt. I would (and did for DSP56300 project).

DSP56300 team provides VST2 because one of the developers involved does have a VST2 license that is still valid. That's the only reason why. If they didn't have that developer, there would be no VST2 of the emulator either.

VST2 SDK is on Internet Archive. Are you saying Steinberg would sue anyone who releases any VST2 plugin online without the old license? What is this, inquisition? Sickos have taken over the industry...

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Are only m***** coming here now?

Magnum?
Marmot?
Meringue?
Marlin?
Mushro?
Mullet?
Muppet?
Midget?
Mister?
Mingle?
Muzzle?
Moppet?
Meanie?
Midgie?
Muggle?

What is it please!?!!

[kmonkey]

Certainly one of the usual KVR armchair product specialists's episodes.

Message to dev. please don't take it too seriously. The internet is full of creeps. But they are a minority which is why they are the loudest ones

Just continue with your development to whatever you see best fit.

[newluc]

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VST2 SDK is on Internet Archive. Are you saying Steinberg would sue anyone who releases any VST2 plugin online without the old license? What is this, inquisition? Sickos have taken over the industry...
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C'mon please stop.
Read the story and listen people like evildragon, who is a respectable and skilled developer.

First: learn
second: talk

[jbraner]

Are only m***** coming here now?

Musicians?

[EvilDragon]

Are you saying Steinberg would sue anyone who releases any VST2 plugin online without the old license? What is this, inquisition? Sickos have taken over the industry...

Steinberg did sweep a shitton of Github repositories which contained VST2 SDK in them with cease&desist letters. This is nothing new for them. So yes, it is their right to sue if they stumble upon a plugin that was developed by someone who doesn't have a valid license to do so.

[SLiC]

Are only m***** coming here now?

Musicians?

m***** had me stumped as well!

If someone doesn't make me a 32bit VST 2 that run son Windows 7 I am going to sue the world for moving on....

[audiojunkie]

Are you saying Steinberg would sue anyone who releases any VST2 plugin online without the old license? What is this, inquisition? Sickos have taken over the industry...

Steinberg did sweep a shitton of Github repositories which contained VST2 SDK in them with cease&desist letters. This is nothing new for them. So yes, it is their right to sue if they stumble upon a plugin that was developed by someone who doesn't have a valid license to do so.

Yep. I can speak for this. It largely affected us Linux users who were trying to find a way to have VST plugins on Linux at the time. They even scared off some legitimate clean-room reverse engineered projects--just wasn't worth the risk of getting sued. Thank goodness we don't live in those dark days anymore. We have VST3, CLAP, and LV2 available now. But those cease and desist letters shut a lot of our hopes down back then....