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seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:46 am

S1gnsOfL1fe wrote:I freaking love this track. Who else would take an ambient/drone piece to almost 2/3 the way through and then break out into a techno frenzy? Whatsisname, that's who!!!

Most excellent my friend. And btw, Frantz, I hear what you're saying but I suppose my ears are used to overly high pitched frequency. Personally, I would have EQ'd that drone differently but overall I think it fits the piece quite nicely.

But hey, that's what WIP is all about right? Work in progress!!!

You're definitely making progress with this one Tim.

Cheers!!!

-S1gns

Thanks for the listen and the enthusiasm, S1gns. Glad you liked it

I have a couple of changes planned for this in the next few days. Some slight mods to the percussion and maybe the addition of a soft bass towards the end.

I uploaded a newer version to Soundcloud yesterday with slightly less excitable HF components from that first reverbed drone.

fateamenabletochange · Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:56 am

Good stuff Seismic...I like the way the changes come naturally at 2 min and 4 min, a cool progression to it. Like the outro. Good sounds.

Spek looks interesting. Caused to think about sounds up very high and quiet, as an alternative to actual silence.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:05 am

BradColeman wrote:Nice atmosphere, the high frequencies don't bother me that much, but it might depend on the kind of speakers. Perfect music for tripping I'd say

I uploaded a "tamed HF" version to SoundCloud about 36 hours ago.

Heel hartelijk bedankt

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:15 pm

D.H. Miltz wrote:Very enjoyable piece. I think it would be nice to hear fairly loud while lying down with one's eyes closed. I'm too tired to test this theory (if I close my eyes I'll go to sleep and it isn't quite that time yet), but I'm pretty sure about it. Thanks, seismic1.

Is it only the SoundCloud link that has the new version? Nothing in the first one bothered me, but having read the thread I'm curious to hear the second.

Thanks very much for listening and commenting DHM. Glad you liked it

I hope you managed to evaluate and enjoy the effects of Seismic sedatives.

Yep. Only the SoundCloud version has the updated mix. Just a little cleaner in the HF. If you click on the download control in the embedded player, you should be able to get hold of it. about 15Mb (320 Kbps mp3)

mr.me · Post by **mr.me** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:40 pm

Very smooth and mellow sounds in this, fantastic mixing too. didn't seem like six minutes...very enjoyable.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:45 pm

Frantz wrote:
Spek is a terrific free cross-platform spectrogram app. Just drag and drop audio files onto it and you get an instant spectrum analysis.

I really like the simplicity of spek. Very appealling.

I also installed Sonogram SG-1. This can be loaded inside the sequencer as a VST insert on the Master bus, or indeed on individual instrument channels.

Thanks to NAD for bringing these to my attention:-

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=376470

Interestingly, there are a few differences between your image made from the mp3 and the image I made from the source wav file, particularly at high freqs.

Teenbuzz is great for getting my son's attention

I may revisit those 9.5kHz frequencies again, next time I update this track.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:51 pm

V0RT3X wrote:
Frantz wrote:
V0RT3X wrote: I've always been fairly sensitive to sounds though. I can hear fairly high frequencies emit from all sorts of things.
How does the MP3 in the original post sound to you? Are the frequencies irritating?

Well its definitely got a bright sound to it. I like the drone, but ya you are right about the higher frequencies. I can't really hear the noise but there is some kind of high frequency crowding in this track that makes it difficult for me to enjoy.

The sound design and drone itself are excellent sounding though, maybe just a bit of EQ work on the higher frequencies.

Cheers

Thanks very much for listening and commenting, V0RT3X. Glad you like it

I've eq'd some of the HF down on the SoundCloud version and might adjust the high-cut filter in Shimmer next time I make any mods to this track.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:11 pm

seismic1 wrote: Interestingly, there are a few differences between your image made from the mp3 and the image I made from the source wav file, particularly at high freqs.

Comparing the WAV and MP3 in Spek is an interesting idea. MP3 is lossy. Naturally some of that compression is reducing high frequency information.

seismic1 wrote:Teenbuzz is great for getting my son's attention

This is the problem I have with digital audio. With recordings of the 70s and 80s, if there were any extreme frequencies, they were rolled off by the mixing desk, tape, or the mastering process. But when I check out tracks here on KVR made ITB (In The Box), some of them unintentionally include frequencies that I find painful.

seismic1 wrote:I may revisit those 9.5kHz frequencies again, next time I update this track.

I would appreciate an EQ cut in that range. I'm sure no one else minds but I find those frequencies in your track unpleasant.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:47 pm

layzer wrote:soundcloud mix

Thanks, layzer

Jesse Gorter · Post by **Jesse Gorter** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:22 am

Really cool stuff man :)
Nice spaced out beats. I would like to try my hands on such a piece someday, mine tend to get very busy. This has more patience to it.

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:32 am

Had another go and really enjoying this piece Tim. It reminds me somewhat of Spacetime Continuum's Sea Biscuit disc.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:50 am

fateamenabletochange wrote:Good stuff Seismic...I like the way the changes come naturally at 2 min and 4 min, a cool progression to it. Like the outro. Good sounds.

Spek looks interesting. Caused to think about sounds up very high and quiet, as an alternative to actual silence.

Thanks very much for checking this out and commenting, fate. Glad you liked it

Than outro is CM101 through REFLEX Free. Tasty little combo.

spek is showing me things that I already knew, but had difficulty quantifying, and I think will prove to be useful QC tool in the future.

fateamenabletochange · Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:20 pm

I use FabQ

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:10 pm

mr.me wrote:Very smooth and mellow sounds in this, fantastic mixing too. didn't seem like six minutes...very enjoyable.

Thanks very much for checking this out, mr.me. Glad you enjoyed it

I've just uploaded a tweaked version with a Shimmer HF tweak, added SampleMoog Taurus and made a couple of minor mastering EQ changes.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:44 pm

seismic1 wrote: I've just uploaded a tweaked version with a Shimmer HF tweak, added SampleMoog Taurus and made a couple of minor mastering EQ changes.

I compared all 3 versions of this. There are obvious sonic differences between the original and the 3/14 version.

The differences between 3/14 and 3/17 are quite subtle with respect to HFs. I had to A/B them several times to make sure I could hear the difference. They both have sustained notes at 9.5kHZ but they dissipate more quickly in the 3/17 version. For me, the 3/17 version is subtly better but still too shrill for my tastes.

I think you should leave the HFs since they sound good to you. My only suggestion is to play the track on a completely different system at some point. If I recall correctly, you are monitoring using an old amp or speakers. There is a possibility that your sound system is rolling off the HFs and you are adding more to compensate.

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