Beatmaker plugins Third Generation available now! 🥁

[telecharge]

I'm not on their mailing list, but they sent me a notice about this "major upgrade". No mention of price.

[elxsound]

Hmmm. You can't completely bypass the mix preset effects. It says 0%, but it still has an effect.

Also, labels are still there, but only they only appear with mouse hovering.

Although I don't see a way to add user samples, Midi export is drag to host for all patterns. Super easy.

Overall, while a bit basic (IMO) its still an inexpensive way to add some different options.

Are there advantages to upgrading if you don't care about a reduction to your plugin list, unified interface, or optimizations for smaller keyboards?

Seems the standouts are the mixer page and the loop (MIDI) browser that can be filtered by song structure.

The edit page per sample for swapping samples (within only the current pack) is an improvement over the dropdown list, only because it offers Attack, Decay, Dynamic and Pitch options on the same page.

Otherwise, the unified plugin comes up a bit short in that samples are locked to each pack and so are the loops.

I would think the biggest advantage of having the unified plugin is being able to mix & match from each pack to come up with something unique. I get that U-Jam is designed to be ultra simple, but I can’t help thinking it’s a missed opportunity.

Its not U-Jam designed to be ultra simple, its beatmakers, these are NOT the real drums (virtual drums), these are just kind of toyish quick for whatever level of sketch.

I updated the ones I have (mostly free or really cheap) for 19 bucks out of curiosity and of course nothing NEEDED but....nice toy to spent an evening with and knowing its there if needed for quick...

While usually I prefer to drive evrything form notes from the piano roll I think for this level its ok to just drag the patterns to the track. Nobody would do anything deeper with these patterns anyway....

Just my 2cents....

Yes, U-jam makes simple products by design: https://theneptunes.org/2011/06/ujam-be ... -required/

They’ve changed a bit in that time since, but not too much

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I’m not gonna waste time trying to convince anyone these aren’t toys, but I’ve heard that applied to everything at some point. Live, FL Studio were toys. Fabfilter plugins were toys. Much more throughout the years were called toys and that’s never stopped anyone before from making use of what they have.

You can even sample real toys to make real music and sound effects and on and on. Someone will use it, and the way things work today, there’s no reason it can’t be successful.

[telecharge]

I’m not gonna waste time trying to convince anyone these aren’t toys, but I’ve heard that applied to everything at some point. Live, FL Studio were toys. Fabfilter plugins were toys. Much more throughout the years were called toys and that’s never stopped anyone before from making use of what they have.

True, but when someone calls an instrument a toy, it implies that it's not suitable for production -- at least, that's the way I read it.

[telecharge]

Not a good look for this Beatmaker release - viewtopic.php?p=9091428#p9091428

[UJAM Support]

...The ability to modify the loops within beatmaker would have been nice.

Added your vote to this feature request. Thank you.

[UJAM Support]

Does it let you add more than one filter from the "filter type" selection to a single sample? Can you effectively EQ as much as you want that way or is there a limit on number of filters?

The effect selected in the upper left of the mixer is for the whole kit (with an adjustable Mix setting). The Filter knobs on each 'drum' are adjustable Low Pass to High Pass controls. Please let us know if that doesn't answer your question.

[elxsound]

Does it let you add more than one filter from the "filter type" selection to a single sample? Can you effectively EQ as much as you want that way or is there a limit on number of filters?

The effect selected in the upper left of the mixer is for the whole kit (with an adjustable Mix setting). The Filter knobs on each 'drum' are adjustable Low Pass to High Pass controls. Please let us know if that doesn't answer your question.

Mix at 0% does not bypass the Mix presets (Glitter, Boombap, etc...) Is this a limitation of the app, or is there a fix coming?

What causes the UJAM app to open when loading Beatmaker? Sometimes it opens, sometimes it doesn't.

Trying to close it sometimes shows a message that Beatmaker in Live must be closed before I can close the UJAM app.

Is there a form of software protection initiated that we should be aware of?

[Ou_Tis]

Does it let you add more than one filter from the "filter type" selection to a single sample? Can you effectively EQ as much as you want that way or is there a limit on number of filters?

The effect selected in the upper left of the mixer is for the whole kit (with an adjustable Mix setting). The Filter knobs on each 'drum' are adjustable Low Pass to High Pass controls. Please let us know if that doesn't answer your question.

That answers my question, but I'd greatly prefer more EQ options to apply to each "drum" sample individually. Low pass and high pass aren't at all sufficient. Granted, I could render out the drum samples and use midi drag and drop to recreate the kit, but then I'd be losing the parts of the bus processing that sound very different when applied differently to the full loop as opposed to just one sample (for example, compression, saturation)... and there seems to be no option to use the bus processing as an FX plugin for external audio.

Because of these limitations and the inability to load our own samples or swap samples between kits I probably won't upgrade or purchase further Beatmakers, though I already have a bunch.

[UJAM Support]

Mix at 0% does not bypass the Mix presets (Glitter, Boombap, etc...) Is this a limitation of the app, or is there a fix coming?

Have logged this to investigate. We'd encourage you to Submit a Request via support.ujam.com as well to track this in a support ticket.

What causes the UJAM app to open when loading Beatmaker?

The UJAM App handles copy protection, so will run (typically in the background) while using the plug-ins.

[UJAM Support]

...I'd greatly prefer more EQ options to apply to each "drum" sample individually. Low pass and high pass aren't at all sufficient...

We'll add your vote to a feature request for this. Thank you.

[elxsound]

Mix at 0% does not bypass the Mix presets (Glitter, Boombap, etc...) Is this a limitation of the app, or is there a fix coming?

Have logged this to investigate. We'd encourage you to Submit a Request via support.ujam.com as well to track this in a support ticket.

What causes the UJAM app to open when loading Beatmaker?

The UJAM App handles copy protection, so will run (typically in the background) while using the plug-ins.

Ugh, yeah… not a fan of that form of copy protection. I’ll be deleting. You already got my my money though.

I don’t remember that happening with the earlier versions.

[SirkusPi]

I definitely have NOT noticed the UJAM app opening every time I install an instance of a Beatmaker v2 plugin. If that’s new behavior in v3, that’s yet another reason I guess I won’t be upgrading (on top of the awful UI and midi layout revisions, of course).

[medienhexer]

Mix at 0% does not bypass the Mix presets (Glitter, Boombap, etc...) Is this a limitation of the app, or is there a fix coming?

Have logged this to investigate. We'd encourage you to Submit a Request via support.ujam.com as well to track this in a support ticket.

What causes the UJAM app to open when loading Beatmaker?

The UJAM App handles copy protection, so will run (typically in the background) while using the plug-ins.

When did you change that? That‘s completely inacceptable. What happened to machine authorization? BFD needing to phone home every six months is already a terrible restriction and good reason to avoid that company.

But every use? And having your app running in the background? So is that what we‘re doing now? Every developer gets to run their shit in the background, waste my RAM, access the internet and cause CPU load whenever they feel like it? That‘s malware behavior! Unless I ask you to check for updates, you don‘t get to access the internet. How is that data protection compliant? With continuous access, you can easily create movement profiles.

You‘re not alone on users‘ systems! And we can‘t keep buying new hardware only to run your ever more stupid copy protection schemes! Bad enough that updater apps try to keep running in the background. But I can remove them from autostart. Who wants ten icons in their menu bar just for everyone‘s copy protection? You‘re not Pokemons! Nobody wants to collect all your icons!

I buy everything I use. How about you don‘t punish me for it? Jeebus, now I regret everything I bought from you.

What was the design goal? Develop something that‘s more annoying than ilok? Or have something to force advertisement onto everyone who can‘t stand being bombarded with newsletters? I HAVE bought everything. There‘s nothing left to sell to me. Leave me the fudge alone.

[telecharge]

I blame this guy. He's obviously flipped his lid.
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[medienhexer]

I blame this guy. He's obviously flipped his lid.
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I can‘t imagine he‘d be okay with it.

Clearly, Hans Zimmer doesn‘t use the products, because he would tear them a new one if he was bothered with this kind of intrusion.