Roland Cloud

[Shiek927]

Guys, give it a rest. They are a Cloud based service and will do what they will do. Belly-aching about lifetime keys, permanent/offline authorizations, and such is just barking up the wrong tree. It's fine to voice your ideas, but it's long been established that RC have their pipeline and itinerary they are following and nagging the middle-man isn't gonna change that.

Read between the lines: they said "I understand that this does not work for some setups, and that's ok. This may not be the right product for you". It is what it is and that's how it's gonna be. Make it work for you or move onto something else.

[Aloysius]

+1 for iLok 2.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Guys, give it a rest. They are a Cloud based service and will do what they will do. Belly-aching about lifetime keys, permanent/offline authorizations, and such is just barking up the wrong tree. It's fine to voice your ideas, but it's long been established that RC have their pipeline and itinerary they are following and nagging the middle-man isn't gonna change that.

Read between the lines: they said "I understand that this does not work for some setups, and that's ok. This may not be the right product for you". It is what it is and that's how it's gonna be. Make it work for you or move onto something else.

I disagree totally. How else would Roland come to understand potential missing sales if people did not voice their opinion on the authorization system? And how do you think the cloud license check was changed from once a week to once a month?

[JamminFool]

And how do you think the cloud license check was changed from once a week to once a month?

this.

[Chrisk-K]

And how do you think the cloud license check was changed from once a week to once a month?

this.

RC’s once a month license check hasn’t improved my experience with using RC plugins. It still takes several seconds for RC plugins to be activated in Logic whereas my other plugins get activated as soon as they are launched. It almost feels like RC checks my license every time I launch a RC plugin.

[JamminFool]

And how do you think the cloud license check was changed from once a week to once a month?

this.

RC’s once a month license check hasn’t improved my experience with using RC plugins. It still takes several seconds for RC plugins to be activated in Logic whereas my other plugins get activated as soon as they are launched. It almost feels like RC checks my license every time I launch a RC plugin.

yup, it still sucks. no doubt. but i was agreeing that complaining CAN make them reconsider (since a post earlier instructed those of us registering complaints to " give it a rest" and that it is "barking up the wrong tree").

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

At least one should try request, and if that ain’t working, try the complaint road, or nothing ever happens. When the new Fantoms came out, more than a few owners, including me, thought it was pretty halfbaked. Well, they managed to stuff most in there during a year. Unfortunately too late for me, I sold it again, but others were quite satisfied. Make noise. It is not always in vain if you steer free from whining and abuse and focus on the technical issues.

[Arashi]

yup, it still sucks. no doubt. but i was agreeing that complaining CAN make them reconsider (since a post earlier instructed those of us registering complaints to " give it a rest" and that it is "barking up the wrong tree").

Complaining about complaining is one of the hallmarks of KVR.

[JamminFool]

[fmr]

Guys, give it a rest. They are a Cloud based service and will do what they will do. Belly-aching about lifetime keys, permanent/offline authorizations, and such is just barking up the wrong tree. It's fine to voice your ideas, but it's long been established that RC have their pipeline and itinerary they are following and nagging the middle-man isn't gonna change that.

Actually, they already did a lot of zig-zagging. When Roland Cloud officially started, it was meant as a platform for developing original native emulations (the Legendary series). They also had some extra things that came from the Roland catalog, like the Tera Piano and Tera Guitar (which apparently no one have a sh*t to, although they pretended those were platforms to render tracks offline - as if someone would care about that). Then they included Aira, and created the Concerto. I didn't mind muy about Aira, because it was just two instruments, and although the mono synth didn't interest me, the Poly synth (System-8) actually was one of my choices for the lifetime licenses. Then they came with that Concerto thing. I always looked at it as intermediary solution while they didn't came with real emulations.

For a while this seemed to be working good. They released slowly, but they added some good things, and promised others.

But then the joint-venture ended, Roland took over, and once again scrambled everything (as usual). They came up with that Zenology thing, and from then on what we have seen were ZEnology packs.

What's worse - they decided to use Roland Cloud as the distribution platform for all the sh*t they have for their hardware. And the software is still half done, full of problems. Installers don't work alone, we cannot choose where to install things, if we choose too many packages to download most likely some of them will not be downloaded (but we don't know it until we launch the shitty thing next time). Now, finding what we want in that pile of Sh*t that's there is a really hard task.

Adding to this we have to use that shitty thing regularly to keep authorizing our software. That's why the current years will be my last subscribing years. I already have permanent licenses for what I want, and I don't give a sh*t for the rest they are launching.

[jasonekratz]

Well, not really sure they're zig-zagging. Its a subscription and they have to keep adding content. ZENology and soundpacks are the easy way to make the subscription seem worth it. They just dont have the dev power (least it seems that way) to keep creating ACB, etc. I have zero interest in any of the new stuff they've released. I bought the SH-2 lifetime key to use it with my System-8 but that's about the extent of my interest at this point with RC. Maybe if they released some new ACB I'd be interested again. There is still enough in their catalog for that but that just doesn't seem to be where the future lies.

[JamminFool]

unfortunate, because they are very poor at understanding what the users want. they give us stuff that i have seen absolutely no one ask for, while they ignore exactly what users repeatedly express interest in. very disappointing.

specifically, i want more ACB technology. but i think the 606 was the last one they offered. "brian from roland here" hinted at good things to come, so i think that whatever this refers to will define what the future holds. if it is more of the same, subscription over.

[zvenx]

So now that JRR sells lifetime keys for example:

https://www.jrrshop.com/roland-jupiter- ... fetime-key

and advertises it as:

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has something new happened or you are still required to log on to roland cloud is it once a week or however often to ensure your lifetime key products work?
rsp

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

No news.

[Muziksculp]

Roland Cloud users, What are your frequently used RC Instruments, and which RC Instruments do you consider to be the stars of the RC collection ?