Announcing the launch of ULTRA

[starflakeprj]

Should I stop, or do you need to be spoon-fed even more?

No, why? I want to annoy you as much as possible. Spoon-feed me more. Maybe type it slower next time so even someone as slow as me can keep up. I’m waiting, genius. Don’t stop now, your superiority complex is the most entertaining thing in this whole thread.

Still no valid arguments I see. You seem slow enough already.

I honestly feel sorry for you.

So still nothing. Gotcha.

Why should I have valid arguements when you don't have a single one?

[Echoes in the Attic]

But but but, what if you log out before you go offline? Like you just can’t help yourself and are compelled to hit the log out just before going offline and then you need to use it while offline. THEN WHAT? Do you need this spelled out for you or something???!! If you do I’m not here to explain to you, only to argue.

Yeah, sure, we can argue. But that scenario is basically self-inflicted.

Isn’t that a bit like locking yourself out of your own house? You leave the keys inside, close the door, and immediately realize what you’ve done. Do you blame the construction company for building the house with a lock on the door?

The software works offline as long as you don’t log out and deactivate it. Logging out is the equivalent of throwing away your own access and then blaming the construction company.

Hopefully you know I was kidding.

[SLiC]

So glad for the ignore function on KVR.

[starflakeprj]

But but but, what if you log out before you go offline? Like you just can’t help yourself and are compelled to hit the log out just before going offline and then you need to use it while offline. THEN WHAT? Do you need this spelled out for you or something???!! If you do I’m not here to explain to you, only to argue.

Yeah, sure, we can argue. But that scenario is basically self-inflicted.

Isn’t that a bit like locking yourself out of your own house? You leave the keys inside, close the door, and immediately realize what you’ve done. Do you blame the construction company for building the house with a lock on the door?

The software works offline as long as you don’t log out and deactivate it. Logging out is the equivalent of throwing away your own access and then blaming the construction company.

Hopefully you know I was kidding.

I wasn't too sure, honestly, it was in the middle of the night
But as I wasn't really sure I came up with quite a silly comparison

[starflakeprj]

So glad for the ignore function on KVR.

I'm on your ignore list?
Hopefully not, I'm sorry if my nonsense have triggered that

[PieBerger]

So glad for the ignore function on KVR.

I'm on your ignore list?
Hopefully not, I'm sorry if my nonsense have triggered that

Adding someone to the foe list is too complex for us mere confused simpletons, you're good

[SLiC]

So glad for the ignore function on KVR.

I'm on your ignore list?
Hopefully not, I'm sorry if my nonsense have triggered that

No not you, the person who has now posted a dozen times that he won’t buy the synth due to the log in. So many threads derailed about copy protection, I just want to see posts about music!

[Dr.Gunjah]

Another one that doesn't understand.
Does any other of those plugins you mention require to log in to the plugin itself, require you to STAY logged in, and if you log out and is offline you can't use them?

And no one said "supposed to use it offline". That's just even sillier.

Actually, yeah I have quite a few plugins that do that. I've recently installed Decimort2 and if you load that up in the DAW it greets you with a login screen. I didn't bother though because in the end it's exactly the same as pretty much all online authorization schemes. It doesn't matter if it's in the plugin or outsourced to a 3rd party application. The concept is still the same.
The authorization process usually stores data on your computer to save the "authorized" state. The plugin then looks for that data on your computer to check if it's activated or not. Most plugins will show you "authorized" or whatever on the GUI while ULTRA calls it "logged in". The dev also confirmed that here: viewtopic.php?p=9236958#p9236958
Maybe he should rephrase that to "authorized"?

For some weird reason you are triggered so hard by the word "login" that you completely disregard that the bad things with "having to always be logged in" seemingly do not apply to ULTRA. Namely, an active internet connection and an active server session. This is why we typically hate "always online" software, because the second your internet (or the server) goes down your software stops working.

If you don't care about offline usage of the plugin, what are we even talking about? If you are "logged in" to ULTRA but can still use it without an active internet connection, what's the issue?

If you're concerned about tracking it is WAY better to instead use a firewall or deactivating your internet completely. Even if you "logout" it is extremely easy for a client application to still have some kind of file on your computer that can tell the server who you are when phoning home.
I mean what is your theory here - that the dev lies about the plugin not phoning home to track you but somehow not lies about the logout function erasing all data that may identify you? This makes no sense at all.

[starflakeprj]

Vital and VCV Rack, at least the paid versions. Cherry Audio plugins and Tracktion plugins, all have account logins (no logout button though, but you are getting logged out randomly). Not to mention all plugins asking for you account credentials, but "only" have a de-activate button. Which is definitely not the same depending on whom you're asking.

[starflakeprj]

So glad for the ignore function on KVR.

I'm on your ignore list?
Hopefully not, I'm sorry if my nonsense have triggered that

No not you, the person who has now posted a dozen times that he won’t buy the synth due to the log in. So many threads derailed about copy protection, I just want to see posts about music!

Happy to hear I do have to admit that my posts haven't been much regarding the synth itself. Haven't been playing with it that much yet (I currently have no keyboard to play with), bit it sounds really good in my ears.

[TheMaestro]

Another one that doesn't understand.
Does any other of those plugins you mention require to log in to the plugin itself, require you to STAY logged in, and if you log out and is offline you can't use them?

And no one said "supposed to use it offline". That's just even sillier.

Most plugins will show you "authorized" or whatever on the GUI while ULTRA calls it "logged in". The dev also confirmed that here: viewtopic.php?p=9236958#p9236958
Maybe he should rephrase that to "authorized"?

No. You're the one confused about "logged in".
And from your quoted link there, from the dev himself: "Logging out deactivates the plugin, so no".

For some weird reason you are triggered so hard by the word "login" that you completely disregard that the bad things with "having to always be logged in" seemingly do not apply to ULTRA.

You can't use the synth if you log out. So how does that not apply to Ultra???

If you don't care about offline usage of the plugin, what are we even talking about?

No one said that. So seem to still be confused.

I mean what is your theory here - that the dev lies about the plugin not phoning home to track you but somehow not lies about the logout function erasing all data that may identify you? This makes no sense at all.

You really should stop embarrassing yourself now.

[TheMaestro]

Cherry Audio plugins and Tracktion plugins, all have account logins (no logout button though, but you are getting logged out randomly)

Really...

[starflakeprj]

Cherry Audio plugins and Tracktion plugins, all have account logins (no logout button though, but you are getting logged out randomly)

Really...

Yes, when I haven't used them for a while, I almost always need to log in again.

[TheMaestro]

Lol.

[simmo75]

Stop feeding this troll