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dave dove wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:44 pm i may be being stupid, i would like to trigger envelopes with triggers not gates
or convert triggers to gate
any ideas?
dave
Expanding on Dan's reply, another solution is to use the Percussion EG as a trigger-to-gate converter by setting Click to on, Decay to zero, and using the Attack Hold control to the desired gate length. When a trigger is received, the Attack hold control holds the output at 5V for whatever duration it's set to. I find this preferable to using the Super Envelope Generator Hold control, because it's a lot more compact.

We've had this question a couple of times, so we'll likely make a dedicated trigger-to-gate converter module.

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plexuss wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:36 am I bought the Core+drums bundle and started the demo on the other modules (most of them). Frankly I find the PSP bundle hard to resist except for the price. I didn't start the Vult demo our of fear. lol
Thanks for the kind words, they are appreciated. Do not try the Vult demo. You will lose money, they're REALLY good. :D

(and this is coming from a filter snob who owns a vintage Minimoog, a dot com with a ladder filter, Moon Modular Multi Mode, and a reissue Oberheim SEM)

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cherryMitch wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:41 pm we'll likely make a dedicated trigger-to-gate converter module.
Something that has a pulse/gate time and a modulation input for pulse/gate time as well please. :wink:

Perhaps you can attempt something like the VAZ Modular Pulser while you're at it? :D
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How is this for cpu usage? I have Softube modular and it is fun, but total hell on he cpu for a not especially big step up in sound quality. It’s just good for bizarre routing and feedback trickery. I honestly would pay the price of a Nord g2 for something that could pull off the same tricks on a decent computer. Lots of the things I did on my Nord modular G1 and G2 just turn into a mess of aliasing in all the software modulars/ semi modulars I have.
Does Voltage have adjustable oversampling, different sample rates for modulation and Audio, (ideally) adjustable rate per path? If so what does it cost in resources to build a nice large patch? Also does it have any type of “sub-patch” snapshot/ flexible midi learn with depth and such?

I guess I should just demo it up. So far running the U-he products at high samplerates is the best I’ve been able to do for some of the stranger noises I like to make.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

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Many questions are answered right here: https://cherryaudio.com/voltage-modular/faq

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Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:36 am How is this for cpu usage? I have Softube modular and it is fun, but total hell on he cpu for a not especially big step up in sound quality. It’s just good for bizarre routing and feedback trickery. I honestly would pay the price of a Nord g2 for something that could pull off the same tricks on a decent computer. Lots of the things I did on my Nord modular G1 and G2 just turn into a mess of aliasing in all the software modulars/ semi modulars I have.
Does Voltage have adjustable oversampling, different sample rates for modulation and Audio, (ideally) adjustable rate per path? If so what does it cost in resources to build a nice large patch? Also does it have any type of “sub-patch” snapshot/ flexible midi learn with depth and such?

I guess I should just demo it up. So far running the U-he products at high samplerates is the best I’ve been able to do for some of the stranger noises I like to make.


In terms of CPU usage, this is way, way, way better than softube. For me any time i got an interesting patch going with softube, the usage was insane. However, the sound of the softubeis very good (as you know)

Also interms of being fun to patch - VM is in a different league to all other ITB modulars. Its incredibly inviting and very, very quick. You can sketch most ideas out with total ease. Its the first one i have tried that had me itching to get back into it. Also its great with host automation...very quick workflow there. The workflow in general is just really thought out.
As for oversmapling, i cannot answer that.
Its really worth demoing.
Cheers

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Thanks David. Gonna check it out today.
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Well it’s definitely fun and easy to use. It has the same issues that Softube and everyone else seems to have with aliasing regardless of the samplerate I use. I don’t really understand how any of these companies can’t do what Nord could do 20 years ago with what I think was only 96k. Their oscillators sounded great with deep audio rate modulation and it allowed for some amazing high frequency noises that turn just into white noise in almost every softsynth. I might grab it up anyway as a more useful go to than Softube modular.
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No way to buy with Paypal??

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Stefken wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:32 pm No way to buy with Paypal??
No. Well... you can buy the main package from a distributor with paypal (eg. everyplugins). but module/module-bundle purchases made through Cherry store can not be made with Paypal. I read somewhere from Cherry they did it this way to facilitate distribution of $'s to the module developers. For me that will limit my Cherry store purchases because I often prefer to use my paypal balance. So they better have some deep discount sales in the future to get my $'s. :phones:
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Stefken wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:32 pm No way to buy with Paypal??
You can purchase Voltage Modular with Paypal, just contact us at support@cherryaudio.com if you need assistance. In the coming month we will be making it far easier to purchase modules with Paypal, and by popular request we're adding a shopping cart system so that multiple purchases can be made at once.

Thanks,
Dan @ Cherry Audio

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This is more of a general question, but since it applies to the many many many modular synth plugins I own and have played with I’m gonna ask here. Is the “virtual voltage buss” or whatever one might want to call it, a fixed point signal rather than integer meaning that digital clipping could become an issue when doing audio rate modulation? I found a trick that opened a huge world of fun sounds involving using a resonant filter tuned to specific notes as a FM/PM source and it has only worked well on a Nord modular. It made amazing shimmering sounds and I’ve not been able to achieve it with any other setup. A resonant bandpass filter with the input tuned through a quantizer, and the resonance cranked up to near self-oscillation mostly outputs a “fizzy” noise type sound reminiscent of a bad video game sound effect. The info of which parts of the signal/ modulation signal chain are integer as opposed to float, and the relative sample rates of the different sections are generally left out of the documentation so I still cant figure out much about why I can’t achieve what I want.
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There's a "scratchy knob" issue in the Transistor 909 Kick's Drive and Noise/Tone Mix and also a bit on the Attack knob.

Looks like the coder of this one forgot to use SmoothValue on these.

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Hi,
Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:55 pm Is the “virtual voltage buss” or whatever one might want to call it, a fixed point signal rather than integer [...] The info of which parts of the signal/ modulation signal chain are integer as opposed to float
All signal processing in Voltage Modular is done with 64-bit floating point double-precision values. Integers are never used, and you generally won't find integer math used in any modern plug-in or DAW.

Thanks,
Dan @ Cherry Audio

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Koshdukai wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:24 am There's a "scratchy knob" issue in the Transistor 909 Kick's Drive and Noise/Tone Mix and also a bit on the Attack knob.
You're absolutely right. I've just published an updated module that solves these problems. You'll need VM 1.1.4 or greater to receive the update. Thanks for letting us know!

All the best,
Dan @ Cherry Audio

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