Cakewalk Sonar X3

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[Daan22]

Many times, bad code is not bad code at all (and it pertains to more than Sonar). Far too often, the culprit is SUE, which is much harder to fix and repair than bad code.

I agree with this. I'm a long time Sonar user and it has always been very stable for me, and the crashes that I experienced were for 99% SUE's (Stupid User Errors)
caused for example by other (freeware) vsts, wrong midi routing (caused Omnisphere to go totally weird) etc. etc. The two real bugs that I had in X1 (copy automation and midi clip effects) were perfectly solved in X2.

If you check the Cakewalk forums, SUE's are very very common.

I'm not saying Sonar never had any bugs, like any software it had and probably has. But it can not be denied that many times, the problem is not the code.

[GeorgeZ]

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2013/ ... irst-look/


For those of you truly interested in the mind blowing features and revolutionary nature of X3... watch the synthtopia video review linked above... it should (hopefully) shut the ignorant haters up and anyone really interested in creating powerful awesome music? You'll love it!

Oh, and for the fella raging about how he can have 2 songs loaded at once with his daw... well, with X3 I loaded up 10 songs this evening and switched seamlessly among them, all done in X1 or X2, with zero glitches...heavy use of diva, alchemy, zebra, and other monsters, orchestras, lots of vocals, vst effects... it's all ram dependent with X3 And a good test of stability...

It's not about hating. X2 was to fix issues that X1 had (for me... genuine buggy behavior... and the only, to tht extent, buggy DAW I have, and I have a few). For my problems it didn't. The videos obviously look good and it all sounds fantastic and slick, but it just doesn't always work that way. I'm a beta tester for a quite a few devs on KVR, and I can tell you now, we've received bug reports from users who's systems almost match mine to a T, and i never had the problem they have during testing. Just because it was / is all fine and dandy for you doesn't mean it is for everyone. I'll demo it before putting cash in CW's hand again.

Anyway, speaking of previous versions leading into the new version is properly on topic, so not sure what the issue is

[tenshin111]

For those of you truly interested in the mind blowing features and revolutionary nature of X3... watch the synthtopia video review linked above... it should (hopefully) shut the ignorant haters up and anyone really interested in creating powerful awesome music? You'll love it!

So, how much is Cakewalk paying you for trolling in this thread?

[mabian]

Looking at the video, again it seems there's nothing earth shattering, but I can see a fairly well balanced set of features and functionalities.

Only time will tell if all of them are backed by a stable core product.
I cannot deny it's an appealing all in one package (I'm even tempted to buy the upgrade just to get Addictive drums and Blue Tubes bundle alone).

Bases for most kind of effects, instruments and music are covered, adding - at last - solid pitch correction integration and several other goodies (let me just say that having custom colorization reintroduced as a "feature" is a bit funny).

I see the whole as another try to be the Windows only Logic (it could well be when Logic went Apple only, but it sadly never fulfilled the promise for me).

Let's see what happens

- Mario

[progtronic]

progtronic, when you used to hit play and get hang and crash immediately, did you by any chance have session drummer in those projects? That causes that, and actually can't be used (it can be used the first time you load it in a project but once you save and reload you're in trouble)

I am just wondering if that wasn't in your projects doing this and was the root cause that you didn't realise all that time. Maybe if so you could delete it and get some work done.

The only thing you can do is reload the project using it and immediately go to all SD instances and delete them, and the resave, close project and reload and you should be ok.

Never used Session Drummer. Using Superior Drummer for all my drums and percussion.

I did think that maybe it was one of the stock plug-ins though.. but even after removing all of them.. plus any other non-stock vst's (instruments, fx, etc..), I'd still get random crashing.. even just playing back a couple of bounced tracks.

I have no explanation for it. Crashing was so inconsistent that I couldn't nail down anything in particular that might be causing it.

And like I said.. some days it would seem to just be working fine with no problems for a couple hours, then suddenly.. out of nowhere.. the crashing would start up again.

Tested against all my hardware and background software.. everything. Tore my whole system apart.. nothing helped.

Ran Reaper several times through all that, as a test.. with a few transferred songs to make sure there wasn't something wrong with my overall setup. Never had any problems with Reaper.. other than just hating Reaper.. lol

Anyway.. finally just had to give up on 8.5 and move on.

[J4R1O]

I think it's weird that almost every stock plug-in and audio software that comes bundled with Sonar is made by other developers, and the only thing is made by Cakewalk is its core (the only thing that truly matters). Hope it's stable this time.

[chk071]

I'm pretty interested in purchasing the small version atm, especially as i can get it for half the price as a registered user of the Cakewalk shop (only 44 €). Actually it has some feature which are interesting to me, like the step sequencer, and its ease of use appeals to me (few menus with only the essential functions). Also the GUI seems to be well layed out, looks quite clear and intuitive.

[clintmartin]

I think it's weird that almost every stock plug-in and audio software that comes bundled with Sonar is made by other developers, and the only thing is made by Cakewalk is its core (the only thing that truly matters). Hope it's stable this time.

The Pro channel modules are Cakewalk and very high quality. To your point however they are not all stock. Producer comes with 8 stock Pro channel modules and four (paid for) modules.

[trimph1]

For those of you truly interested in the mind blowing features and revolutionary nature of X3... watch the synthtopia video review linked above... it should (hopefully) shut the ignorant haters up and anyone really interested in creating powerful awesome music? You'll love it!

So, how much is Cakewalk paying you for trolling in this thread?

Well, I wouldn't call him/her a troll...just an excitable fanboi...

I really am happy that others are happy with it. Just as I am happy with S1v2.

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[LawrenceF]

studio one simply copied logic 8 except it added a couple of drag and drop extra features (to be able to do that with plugins)

I think it was a bit more than a couple and certainly more than just with plugins.

It doesn't matter though, good ideas are good ideas and it doesn't matter where they originate ... it only matters how well they work.

[riley4reason]

I may upgrade in a year or 2, if its still around and there is real positive feedback on it.

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