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tasmaniandevil wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
tasmaniandevil wrote:Yes, FL Studio is playing some dirty tricks with the LFO, we are aware of it. :)
Wow..this is odd. I re-opened Repro-5 just now and it seems gone :?:

Do you know a way to reproduce it? Because it seems i can't ... .. .
I should have been more precise, sorry. It's not the whole LFO which is going bonkers. It's just the sample&hold feature as long as the LFO rate is in host sync mode (because this rate also sets the s&h rate).
To hear it, go to the tweaks page, switch the jumper from Noise to s&h mode. Then set the source mix parameter on the synth page from LFO all the way to s&h.
And it only happens if FL Studio is playing. As long as the playback is stopped, the s&h behaves nicely. But if you hit play, it goes bananas. :wink:
Ah..yeah! That was it :tu:

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I don't quite get the admiration for the Prophet 5.
I really liked repro-1 but I do like me some fat sounds.
Repro-5's bass sounds don't impress me but that shouldn't be an issue, as it is not it's core target.

I do like the pads of repro-5. They have some of that Peter Gabriel soundtrack feeling that I really like.
But when I play a single note of a padsound the sound is so .... simple. Not much of interest going on. (I just browsed the presets; didn't make any preset of my own just yet)

When I fire up Absynth, Spire or Xils3 for example, they each have a different flavor of padsound but they all strike me with more character than the Prophet5/Repro-5.
What am I missing here ?

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I imagine the synths you listed are using more osc and a more complex mod matrix.

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Stefken wrote:I don't quite get the admiration for the Prophet 5.
I really liked repro-1 but I do like me some fat sounds.
Repro-5's bass sounds don't impress me but that shouldn't be an issue, as it is not it's core target.

I do like the pads of repro-5. They have some of that Peter Gabriel soundtrack feeling that I really like.
But when I play a single note of a padsound the sound is so .... simple. Not much of interest going on. (I just browsed the presets; didn't make any preset of my own just yet)

When I fire up Absynth, Spire or Xils3 for example, they each have a different flavor of padsound but they all strike me with more character than the Prophet5/Repro-5.
What am I missing here ?
Repro-5 is awesoem for all kinds of polyphonic sounds but for monophonic sounds i would often use Pro-1 instead. On the otehr hand Repro-5 (and the Prophet 5 too) with the activated Unison could do very fat sounds not possible with Repro-1. Having Unison is not possible with a pure monophonic synth as you need multiple voices for doing it.
When Unison is activated in Repro-5 you are also able to use the Glide feature.

To make sounds soudning "bigger" in Repro-5 using the "voice detune" knob and voice panning (rweaks page) are quite helpful. You will notice the effect of this this when using multiple voices (which includes using Unison) while wit ha single voice it is much less obvious.
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Repro-5 can be much fatter than Repro-1. It's simple. Repro-1 is two oscillators, Repro-5 is 16 oscillators in 8-voice unison. :P


Repro-1 can cheat a bit with Jaws, though... :)

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Stefken wrote:I don't quite get the admiration for the Prophet 5.
The Prophet 5 is freakin amazing sounding... and so is RePro-5!

This is a synth that needs to be played and tweaked. You could stand up on stage and bring the roof down. It is so alive and character-full. It sets a new standard in soft-synths.

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The unshushable Coktor wrote:
Stollmeister wrote:1. I haven't been able to resist marking favorites already. Is that a wast of time? I guess all presets will be overwritten when the non-Beta release is released.

2. Am I missing something, or are these two actually the same presets with different names:
HS Profiteer
HS Deep Sleep

3. How come pizzicato presets are not in the pluck section rather than the strings section? (Thinking of TUC Pizzicato.)

4. I’m not sure I understand the point of the ”Chords” presets. Isn’t it just easier to play the chords you want? I get why they make sense on a monophonic synth like Repro-1.
Not sure if some of these were answered already, sorry for any repetitions.

1. If you want to keep on using the marked favourites inside the "Factory Beta" folder, just save a back of that Factory Beta folder somewhere to make sure you'll have the presets at the same location after any updates. The final factory library will of course not be inside a subfolder named "Factory Beta".

2. Yes, that's true, will be fixed for final release.

3. Category folders in the beta are a work in progress, so it's possible that final folders will be sorted differently, we'll see.

4. Chord presets are a thing that people create and others look for and use, it's as simple as that really. Same with presets that contain sequences, which you can also play as single notes. Creating chords or sequences that you trigger with one finger can be seen as a performance tool, or a compositional helper, or as aesthetically interesting to play. Also not everyone might know how to build certain chords.
A more interesting question to me is, does it need its own category folder or should chords be an aspect of other existing main categories. I don't have an answer to that yet.
Thanks for your answers! I guess I can see why some would like a chords category in the presets. I would prefer for it to be its own category, rather than the presets being part of the other categories. I find the chord presets disrupt my preset browsing. I typically already have a chord progression or a melody in mind when I browse through presets. The chord presets don't work with prewritten melodies so they just disrupt the flow. If they are their own category, then I can go there only when I make a conscious decision to explore them.

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I've fiddled with some the presets based on the advice above.
The synth is starting to show it's character. ...

Presets don't show off the synth. Some are boring as hell.

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Stefken wrote:I've fiddled with some the presets based on the advice above.
The synth is starting to show it's character. ...

Presets don't show off the synth. Some are boring as hell.
It is called a beta for a reason

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To me the prophet has a characteristic that many great synths have, which is that you can make it sound amazing... or awful. Pretty versatile for the structure, but I think any synth like that is bound to have a lot of presets that show off it's versatility. But for most of us, we'll end up loving a bunch of presets and hating many as well.

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exmatproton wrote:
Stefken wrote:I've fiddled with some the presets based on the advice above.
The synth is starting to show it's character. ...

Presets don't show off the synth. Some are boring as hell.
It is called a beta for a reason
The presets are not betas

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Yes, they are, as they aren't fully tagged :D

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I don't quite get the admiration for the Prophet 5.
this man has the best answer for you.



and that's just it. if you don't like it... you know what to do.

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Now makes me wonder if the guy who was trying to get him on the Beta/Sound Design team was him all the time :-)

Taste is personal. If it doesn't gel with you. It doesn't. Lots of other options available.
rsp
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zvenx wrote:Now makes me wonder if the guy who was trying to get him on the Beta/Sound Design team was him all the time :-)
Was there ever any doubt? :ud:

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