KVR Audio

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:01 am

Markus Krause wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:32 am
Vortifex wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:14 pm Initial impression: Sounds really good!

Is there any chance of implementing double-click to reset? Icarus has it. Really hate having to try to get the position perfect with a mouse or take my hands off the MIDI controller to CTRL-click.

Update: I added your feature-request for the upcoming version

That's great, loving W so far, that was the only thing I was also going to ask <3

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:26 pm

Bug:

Pops and clicks when modulating Cutoff, Reso and Pan with Rhythm-LFO and Random-LFO.
As a proof I attached an example preset.

Beside this the 5 Rhythm LFOs are not single triggered but poly triggered. This means that if a user plays one key and hold it and then playing 2., 3.,and 4. etc. the rhythm always starts from beninning. And this always breaks the rhythm and sounds awfull and is not musical.
Would it be possible to change the trigger behaviour of Rhythm-LFO to single trigger like in the ARP rhythm patterns ?

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:04 pm

Not a bug.
When you modulate certain targets with a Squarewave or S&H noise (this is what the Random-LFO is) in any conventional synth you can get clicks.
The trigger behaviour of the Rhythm LFO will not be changed. This would break the sound of many presets.

If you think you've found a bug please always send me an email to Markus[ at]tone[dot]com . I check out every email that I get. We do not want to spam this forum with unconfirmed or false bug-reports.

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:22 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:04 pm Not a bug.

If you think you've found a bug please always send me an email to Markus[ at]tone[dot]com . I check out every email that I get. We do not want to spam this forum with unconfirmed or false bug-reports.

Sorry, but this is very obvious a big bug (already the second) and you can hear that in the preset. I also have really very good VSTis and none of them producing clicks and pops when modulating cutoff, reso or anything else with random LFOs or jumping MSEGs.
This is for shure no false bug report.
If this behaviour is intended then you want to give a buggy VSTi to users.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:49 pm

AnX wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:07 pm
Markus Krause wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:04 pm Not a bug.
When you modulate targets with a Squarewave or S&H noise (this is what the Random-LFO is) in any conventional synth you get clicks.

no, you don't.

Yes you do. Unless the synth's timings are too slow, or there's some kind of filter/curve/whatever smoothing the clicks and pops. Which sucks big time, BTW. At least when you can't deactivate it.

You're right in saying that a lot of synths do that, but, if you think about it, every modulation with a steppy modulator should inevitably add pops and clicks to the sound, because it produces transients on the steps. It's nonsense to expect the transitions to be smooth.

Here's some audio showcasing the same thing:

https://soundcloud.com/chk-sound/trancegate-clicks

First 4 bars: No clicks. Second 4 bars: Clicky transitions.

It's rather a flaw when those clicks aren't there.

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:25 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:04 pm Not a bug.
When you modulate certain targets with a Squarewave or S&H noise (this is what the Random-LFO is) in any conventional synth you can get clicks.
The trigger behaviour of the Rhythm LFO will not be changed. This would break the sound of many presets.

To clarify:
I have bought many years ago Firebird and later some other VSTi from your company and now Warlock !
I am not want to sabotate you or your company, I am only interested in a good sounding VSTi with singular features and want to help you riding out bugs so that the VSTi you want to sell is working as expected from the users side without bugs etc.

I am not in a War against you, therefore "Warlock" !!!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:27 pm

What you stated is not a bug though. See my post above.

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:42 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:27 pm What you stated is not a bug though. See my post above.

I don't have this pops and clicks when modulating Cutoff etc. with jumping or random LFOs in my other VSTis.
That's the reason why I posted it.
Therefore I wondered why it's here in Warlock audible and other VSTis not.
So it seems to depend on the way he programmed these modulations, if it's really no bug.

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:58 pm

Edited

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:58 pm

@Morpher: I did refer to AnX, not you

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:31 pm

Was there any demo version available for Apple M1 ARM yet? Would love to test this even though I'm almost 100% sure I'll purchase it just to support Tone2 (and it's a safe purchase as I love most of the Tone2 synths).

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:53 pm

Warlock natively supports ARM. I am using such a machine for development.

A demo for mac might be available next week.

And big thanks for supporting our small company!

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:53 pm Warlock natively supports ARM. I am using such a machine for development.

A demo for mac might be available next week.

And big thanks for supporting our small company!

Hi Markus, the AU version isn't installed on my Mac, I've tried re-installing but no love?

Influx808 · Post by **Influx808** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:50 pm

Hi markus can we use percussion and arpeggios in the competition ?
Cooking some techno for this .
Really impressed with warlok

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:51 pm

simmo75 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:45 pm
Markus Krause wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:53 pm Warlock natively supports ARM. I am using such a machine for development.

A demo for mac might be available next week.

And big thanks for supporting our small company!
Hi Markus, the AU version isn't installed on my Mac, I've tried re-installing but no love?

there is no AU, so... nothing for logic. disappointing.

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