The linux DAW thread
- KVRAF
- 4864 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Before finally settling on Fedora, I was seriously looking at Debian and OpenSUSE. I think the OBS is ground breaking, and although Arch’s AUR is the most visible and famous, I think the OBS is every bit as good. I know of no other build system/repository that allows binaries to be built for so many different platforms. To my knowledge, Fedora’s COPR only makes various architectures of Fedora—not binaries of other platforms.
Likewise, I love the work you guys have been doing on the GeekOS repository. If I were to be swayed to OpenSUSE, it would be chiefly because of the OBS and the GeekOS repository.
Likewise, I love the work you guys have been doing on the GeekOS repository. If I were to be swayed to OpenSUSE, it would be chiefly because of the OBS and the GeekOS repository.
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- KVRAF
- 4864 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Really?! Interesting! See, I’m learning something new every day!!
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Without Rt, or at least the well optimized underlings, you'll run into audio
that stutters and glitches and pops as you design more and more demanding sessions. But this also is involving a daw's thread and core efficiency, not all are coded equal.
Being able to record as a machine approaches it's performance limits is crucial, short of buying a better computer. So precise timing IS a performance gain, in the real world. Even in midi, timing is a special case, so if I can have more layers in yoshimi, each sound with it's own adsr, note-on/off, filters and fx etc at play, with glitch-free recording, I'm happy, regarless of one's labels and definitions.
There was a sound I used as a frame of reference in testing distro audio, when I would play and hold a few notes, then press the sustain pedal, it would eventually max out the system, so the longer that took, the better the audio efficiency, in my non-technical book. Great differences were experienced. With the 5.17 and newer kernels, the same test never goes beyond 31%, when playing as fast and often as possible.
A stroll down memory lane, https://tr.opensuse.org/JackLab
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Another thought, it's easy to equate 'performance' with potential 'latency'. I often see
guitarists on stage from 3 to 60 feet from their gear, with a wide range of live in-air latency,
and I'm sure that practice and experience help in those arenas. In-the-box keyboard parts
in a daw won't be so portable, so keeping latency better than one's playing ability will always be beneficial. And having great timing and pristine sound among all the variables is a great help. Identifying a systems weakest components, and then upgrading them as skill and budget allows, will be good luck.
Cheers
guitarists on stage from 3 to 60 feet from their gear, with a wide range of live in-air latency,
and I'm sure that practice and experience help in those arenas. In-the-box keyboard parts
in a daw won't be so portable, so keeping latency better than one's playing ability will always be beneficial. And having great timing and pristine sound among all the variables is a great help. Identifying a systems weakest components, and then upgrading them as skill and budget allows, will be good luck.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Ardour 7 has been released. Quite a big step, according to the notes.
Might be time to check on Harrison Mixbus, and see what's shared between them!
https://ardour.org/whatsnew.html
Here's an Ardour article circa 2005 from Studio Dave Phillips, introducing Ardour in the printed press...17 years ago
!!! how time flies !!!
https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7796
Might be time to check on Harrison Mixbus, and see what's shared between them!
https://ardour.org/whatsnew.html
Here's an Ardour article circa 2005 from Studio Dave Phillips, introducing Ardour in the printed press...17 years ago
!!! how time flies !!!
https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7796
- KVRAF
- 4864 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Glad to see you posting on your thread!
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
It's an old thread, not mine in any way. I tried to get the title changed once, since there was not a huge number of new topics and posters, but I didn't try hard enough...
My wife had a severe fall, repleat with titanium now holding an arm together, so I've been her second arm as the recovery moves forward. Fortunately, there was not too much nerve damage around the break, and going stir-crazy is helping her get it working again, despite the pain. Never realized how much stuff that arm used to take care of, hence my post count has not been impressive. The little time I've had, has been put to music releases.
Speaking of which, there's one that's been on youtube for two weeks now, and nobody has had a listen yet So you could be the very first! A self contained prize if ever one would be! It's a jaunty piece of peaceful background music using array mbira sounds from DecentSampler. Called 'Along The River Trail'. Should be in the list at my sig's link.
Credit to the delightful Imogen Heap, whose great song, 'The Walk', features a real mbira
Cheers
My wife had a severe fall, repleat with titanium now holding an arm together, so I've been her second arm as the recovery moves forward. Fortunately, there was not too much nerve damage around the break, and going stir-crazy is helping her get it working again, despite the pain. Never realized how much stuff that arm used to take care of, hence my post count has not been impressive. The little time I've had, has been put to music releases.
Speaking of which, there's one that's been on youtube for two weeks now, and nobody has had a listen yet So you could be the very first! A self contained prize if ever one would be! It's a jaunty piece of peaceful background music using array mbira sounds from DecentSampler. Called 'Along The River Trail'. Should be in the list at my sig's link.
Credit to the delightful Imogen Heap, whose great song, 'The Walk', features a real mbira
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
'Self promotion' is a topic I'd prefer to ignore, but necessity carries a big stick, and since nobody is pounding on the door to hear music they don't even know exists, it's on to the new learning curves of the music biz, well addressed by Rick Beato in this video:
https://youtu.be/me4Wwtneh6s
Cheers
https://youtu.be/me4Wwtneh6s
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Went to a Goodwill 2nd-hand store to get s sacrificial 1/4" stereo cable end, but no luck. What I did find was a Microsoft Livechat 6000 LX usb headphone/mic-audio-interface for $8
A little typical linux fiddling came up with usable settings, it definitely did not like 44100, so went with the more standard 48000 and the quality seems fine for what I need. The buttons toggle bluetooth and phone for skype/zoom/jitsi etc.Tested briefly with the 6000 as both input and output device, with Rakarrack and Reaper in AVLinux. Still need some 1/4 inch stereo cable ends, as my good headphones 1/8 inch end connections have been worn down moving i/o of the adaptors.
Cheers
A little typical linux fiddling came up with usable settings, it definitely did not like 44100, so went with the more standard 48000 and the quality seems fine for what I need. The buttons toggle bluetooth and phone for skype/zoom/jitsi etc.Tested briefly with the 6000 as both input and output device, with Rakarrack and Reaper in AVLinux. Still need some 1/4 inch stereo cable ends, as my good headphones 1/8 inch end connections have been worn down moving i/o of the adaptors.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
The 44100 issue went away when I used the 6000 as output device, and my pci soundcard as
input device. Still need to add stereo-rca to the end of a knackered headphone cable. But it's working in a pinch, and the mic could serve if a podcast is called for.
Cheers
input device. Still need to add stereo-rca to the end of a knackered headphone cable. But it's working in a pinch, and the mic could serve if a podcast is called for.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Years ago, Fender released a line of ground-breaking modeling usb guitar amplifiers
(not limited to guitar, for the record). The first edition had 5 amps, varied in size and features, but all capable of excellent and versatile sounds.
These five Mustang V1 amps now sell used in the $50 to $300 range, and offer excellent value for linux guitarists, who can record either or both the usb and headphone/line-out
to whatever is there in your system. The Mustang III, IV, and V have effect-send-returns,
and may include an advanced footswitch. These have 100 sounds on the main dial, extensive editing of sounds, while the Mustang I and II have 24 sounds, and editing of eight typical modulations.
There are Version 2 editions of all these amps, in the same price range. The sound from either the usb or headphone out is excellent, and the amps offer a lot of built-in sound mods. With Christmas coming on, a guitar and amp for little Johnny or Suzy might be an excellent and life-long gift.
(not limited to guitar, for the record). The first edition had 5 amps, varied in size and features, but all capable of excellent and versatile sounds.
These five Mustang V1 amps now sell used in the $50 to $300 range, and offer excellent value for linux guitarists, who can record either or both the usb and headphone/line-out
to whatever is there in your system. The Mustang III, IV, and V have effect-send-returns,
and may include an advanced footswitch. These have 100 sounds on the main dial, extensive editing of sounds, while the Mustang I and II have 24 sounds, and editing of eight typical modulations.
There are Version 2 editions of all these amps, in the same price range. The sound from either the usb or headphone out is excellent, and the amps offer a lot of built-in sound mods. With Christmas coming on, a guitar and amp for little Johnny or Suzy might be an excellent and life-long gift.
- KVRAF
- 4864 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
You would probably be fine with either of those distros. Those distros are Debian/Ubuntu based. You'd have access to the KXStudios repository. However, I don't think Zorin uses pipewire yet, so you may want to use Mint if you don't want to set up Pipewire manually (I'm pretty sure Zorin will get it eventually). Mint should work fine. Mint version 22.10 was just released a couple of weeks ago.
You'll simply need to install Mint, install your native linux DAW, Install native Linux plugins, and do a tiny bit of configuring to tune for latency. When you are ready for the latency tuning part, we can help you with that too.
You'll simply need to install Mint, install your native linux DAW, Install native Linux plugins, and do a tiny bit of configuring to tune for latency. When you are ready for the latency tuning part, we can help you with that too.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 15 Jul, 2013 from Tirol, Austria
I use Mint, it's a breeze. If you're new to the game, my advice would be;
Install Mint -> get Ubuntu Studio Installer -> use that to add important packages and do the config.
I don't use / need JACK or Pipewire and would recommend not using them in the beginning at least. Just load up Ardour or Renoise or Reaper or BitWig or whatever using ALSA as default, then use LV2 and VST for plugs.
From there, there is tonnes of cool Linux software for writing and producing music,, the sky's the limit.
Install Mint -> get Ubuntu Studio Installer -> use that to add important packages and do the config.
I don't use / need JACK or Pipewire and would recommend not using them in the beginning at least. Just load up Ardour or Renoise or Reaper or BitWig or whatever using ALSA as default, then use LV2 and VST for plugs.
From there, there is tonnes of cool Linux software for writing and producing music,, the sky's the limit.