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luxcyon
KVRer
3 posts since 9 Nov, 2007

Post Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:18 pm

wanted to try it out but it's not on the nusofting site. anyone know where i can dl it?
here's the link on kvr: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2830.html

pw
KVRAF
1530 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from desolation row

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:27 am

luxcyon wrote:wanted to try it out but it's not on the nusofting site. anyone know where i can dl it?
here's the link on kvr: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2830.html


It hasn't been released yet, but it is coming.
...

luxcyon
KVRer
3 posts since 9 Nov, 2007

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:59 am

pw wrote:
luxcyon wrote:wanted to try it out but it's not on the nusofting site. anyone know where i can dl it?
here's the link on kvr: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2830.html


It hasn't been released yet, but it is coming.


oh ok. thanks :)

liqih
DASH Guy
7271 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:01 pm

yes, and thanks for asking, Broken Drum Machine is currently in the production lab.
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ouroboros
KVRAF
7877 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:16 pm

would you like some.....help :)
breaking things?

liqih
DASH Guy
7271 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:36 pm

ouroboros wrote:would you like some.....help :)
breaking things?


LOL, good one, you may break some presets later, <grin>
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liqih
DASH Guy
7271 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:40 pm

BTW now I'm building a perfectly working drum machine, and later I will really "but virtually" break it, should be fun, but hard too,


suggestions about what to break in it?
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Az're-ul
KVRAF
3055 posts since 30 Mar, 2002 from 51°53'N 02°15'W

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:49 pm

liqih wrote:BTW now I'm building a perfectly working drum machine, and later I will really "but virtually" break it, should be fun, but hard too,


suggestions about what to break in it?


How about everything but switchable like it had been circuit bent?
其余的是噪音

ouroboros
KVRAF
7877 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:54 pm

:hyper:

liqih
DASH Guy
7271 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:12 pm

azrael wrote:
liqih wrote:BTW now I'm building a perfectly working drum machine, and later I will really "but virtually" break it, should be fun, but hard too,


suggestions about what to break in it?


How about everything but switchable like it had been circuit bent?


maybe my question should have been: How to break it?
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Juanjo
KVRian
740 posts since 6 Jan, 2006 from Premià

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:26 pm

What about 2 modes?

- Analog mode:
This would emulate broken stuff as if the drum machine was hardware and phisically damaged i.e. bad contacts, burnt electronic components, circuit bents, that kind of stuff.

- Digital mode:
This would actually introduce errors in the code i.e. switching variables, resetting values at random intervals, "bad" code, etc

The second mode might be easier to implement but lots of fun to (mis)use 8)
Just an idea...
The mind boggles.

liqih
DASH Guy
7271 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:51 pm

yes Juanjo, actually so far I was thinking on the line of a mixed beaviour, both bad contacts and code errors,

thanks for the input
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Az're-ul
KVRAF
3055 posts since 30 Mar, 2002 from 51°53'N 02°15'W

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:55 pm

liqih wrote:
azrael wrote:
liqih wrote:BTW now I'm building a perfectly working drum machine, and later I will really "but virtually" break it, should be fun, but hard too,


suggestions about what to break in it?


How about everything but switchable like it had been circuit bent?


maybe my question should have been: How to break it?


Sorry that was perhaps too broad an answer :-)

Apart from Juanjo's excellent ideas and the random oscs you've previously mentioned, off the top of my head and again I don't know how workable these are:

Corruption of MIDI data, wrong notes etc

Truncated sounds

Pitch drift

Varying ADSR

Crackles

If there is a built in sequencer, have it skip steps or play in the wrong order where you set which step it can malfunction at.

Slow downs and speed ups that balance so pattern length is always the same
其余的是噪音

liqih
DASH Guy
7271 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:11 pm

good, so I big question is:

should BDM have a sequencer or not??

making a nice sequencer is already some work, but making a "cleverly broken" one it's surely an hard task, <grin>

of course I have some ideas to run thru, but I'd love to hear your opinion
if BDM should be a pure generator or a beat box with patterns

thanks
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Juanjo
KVRian
740 posts since 6 Jan, 2006 from Premià

Post Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:13 pm

More:

- UI errors i.e. gui controls (buttons, sliders) not always responding to mouse clicks and movements (as if they were loose), random midi/automation misfirings, etc.
This would add a layer of unpredictability to the actual handling of the instrument (of course it could be optional).
The mind boggles.

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