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samplesbank · Post by **samplesbank** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:22 pm

It seems like there is a vocal multiplier or some strange short slap back delay or something like that. Can't quite figure it out.

Anybody know how to achieve this effect???

syncopated_silence · Post by **syncopated_silence** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:58 pm

probably a vocoder filtered in from a second vocal track every now and again

BFunKu · Post by **BFunKu** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:49 pm

I think there might be some Gated Reverb in there too

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:51 pm

BFunKu wrote:I think there might be some Gated Reverb in there too

yep and a phaser probabely

blatanville · Post by **blatanville** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:59 pm

BFunKu wrote:I think there might be some Gated Reverb in there too

blatanville · Post by **blatanville** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:01 pm

IIRC from my time as a huge Genesis/PG/PC fan in the mid-80s, most of "Face Value" was tracked and mixed at Phil's new home studio, hence most of the production would have been pretty basic (exemplified by how bare the arrangement on "In the Air Tonight" is, for instance) seek the simplest solution, young Jedi...

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:10 pm

I heard it was the same effect that Cher used for believe...

I'll get my coat.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:00 pm

Isn't the In The Air Tonight vocal just drenched in a reverse reverb? It's been a while since I heard the actual song, but when Family Guy parodied it, Stewie was definately rocking a reverse reverb. To do so, reverse your vocal, add lots of reverb, reverse your vocal so that it's playing forwards again. The reverb will now be in reverse, fading into the vocals as opposed to away from them.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:24 pm

Why not let Phil himself tell you how he made that song. Here ya go!

http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_phil_collins_air/

Brent

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:38 pm

Ah! THere's the article. I was going to say, his vocal is pretty simple in that, except for the vocoder stuff, which was added in the studio, IIRC. Seems to me it's mostly a big slapback delay and maybe a chorus/doubler or something...

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:01 pm

On the whole vocal track: slapback delay (80 ms?)
The "I Remember" part is ofcourse a vocoder.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:24 pm

Sounds about right.

minx · Post by **minx** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:38 pm

the AMS 1580 dual delay harmoniser is what is used on phil collins vocal along with a Lexicon reverb probably a 300.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:38 pm

Sounds about right.

samplesbank · Post by **samplesbank** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:15 am

so what's a good plug-in equivalent to achieve this same result???

Phil Collins "In The Air Tonight" vocal effect vst???