infinite loop effect

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republik
KVRist
165 posts since 8 Apr, 2004

Post Sun May 04, 2008 3:43 pm

I'm looking for an effect that I could use to record a brief portion of audio and then loop it indefinitely, until I want to trigger it to stop.

I want to trigger it to record a small chunk of my vocals while I'm holding a note, and then continue to loop it. It doesn't necessarily have to even sound like me, cause i'd want to keep the length of the loop fairly short for a smearing effect.

The closest plugin I have found for this has been Dubstation 1.5 with its loop switch. The only problem is that the tone of the recording changes a bit, which makes it noticable that a loop has just initiated.

If anybody has any ideas, thanks so much!

bernhardtjeff
KVRian
886 posts since 2 Jun, 2005 from Hawaii

Post Sun May 04, 2008 5:07 pm

republik wrote:I'm looking for an effect that I could use to record a brief portion of audio and then loop it indefinitely, until I want to trigger it to stop.

I want to trigger it to record a small chunk of my vocals while I'm holding a note, and then continue to loop it. It doesn't necessarily have to even sound like me, cause i'd want to keep the length of the loop fairly short for a smearing effect.

The closest plugin I have found for this has been Dubstation 1.5 with its loop switch. The only problem is that the tone of the recording changes a bit, which makes it noticable that a loop has just initiated.

If anybody has any ideas, thanks so much!
plenty of delays out there that don't color the sound and could be used for what you want to do. here are a couple:

http://www.e-phonic.com/plugins/retrodelay.php
http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-delay.php

just put one on a send and send to it when you want your voice to repeat. retro delay might be better for what you wanna do 'cause it has a panic button, so you can cut the sound instantly when you want it to quit.

napalmbob
KVRian
1211 posts since 7 Aug, 2006 from Geelong, Australia

Post Sun May 04, 2008 5:23 pm

I think GVST has something like what you're after.
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aciddose
KVRAF
12336 posts since 7 Dec, 2004

Post Sun May 04, 2008 5:38 pm

http://xhip.cjb.net/xhipeffects/release ... reverb.dll

set up the reverb with whatever settings you like, but set "time" to zero, "delay" to zero, "feedback" to 100%.

set "wet" and "dry" to zero. when you want to have the sustain effect start to apply, set "time" to 100%. when you want the sustain effect to become audible, set "wet" to 100%.

you could use something like energyxt to do this with cc to automation routing. you'd need a simple cc enveloper/delay plugin. you could set the sustain pedal to trigger a fast attack of the "time" parameter followed by a slow attack of the "wet" parameter. when releasing the pedal, "time" could release very slowly, and "wet" very quickly. this would provide a semi-automatic method for this effect.

there are many possibilities and it wouldn't really be practical to implement this in a stand-alone effect for that reason. i'm not aware of any cc enveloper plugin, but i'm sure there are some out there. i think energyxt has a envelope/lfo module, but i don't really know all that much about it. i think it could be used in this way.

the most flexible way to handle this would be with an automation track. record your vocals, then set up the automation to match exactly what you wanted. you'll have the best control this way.

republik
KVRist
165 posts since 8 Apr, 2004

Post Sun May 04, 2008 6:44 pm

Thanks for all the help!! I'm trying out all these plugs.

Reading into it more, I think reverb effects with "freeze" functionality might work too. Does anyone know of reverbs with this capability?

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zerocrossing
KVRAF
9929 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Sun May 04, 2008 6:54 pm

Those loopers are OK... FOR MY GRANDMA! ;) This is what you need:

http://www.zonemobius.com

You shan't need more in a looper.

M

paradiddle
KVRian
1492 posts since 15 Aug, 2001 from montreal, canada

Post Sun May 04, 2008 7:44 pm

augustus loop

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foosnark
KVRAF
5069 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Sun May 04, 2008 8:04 pm

Elottronix.

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aciddose
KVRAF
12336 posts since 7 Dec, 2004

Post Sun May 04, 2008 8:18 pm

"I think reverb effects with "freeze" functionality might work too. Does anyone know of reverbs with this capability?"

use the reverb as i described above. make sure the input is nulled during the sustain part unless you want to add more content to it. with the proper settings you'll get a perfect sustain effect with very little amplitude distortion.

blakes
KVRist
147 posts since 14 Aug, 2004

Post Mon May 05, 2008 1:40 am

instajungle or buffer synth 1 maybe u want to add a note toggle midi effect


freeverbtoo can freeze but i dont think that this is what he wants... than he'd be better suited with timefreezer
courtney did it!

Mutant
KVRAF
3433 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland

Post Mon May 05, 2008 3:09 am

foosnark wrote:Elottronix.
+googol
;)
And here is the url:
http://www.uv.es/ruizcan/p_vst.htm
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Ay caramba !

amiga909
KVRAF
1501 posts since 29 Apr, 2004

Post Mon May 05, 2008 3:34 am

instajungle +1

or: usine free vst + some of the live pack workspaces (included)
+: u have a graphical display, so u can better see when to loop what.
-: may need a lot of time to understand usine

Optomadic
KVRAF
6125 posts since 18 Oct, 2007

Post Mon May 05, 2008 3:54 am

Spectral Monkeage?
http://www.ochremusic.com/specMonkyageSt.zip

There was one called timemachine or timelooper that gave an infinite stretch. It wasn't freeware but I cant find it now..

EDIT:

Found it here:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1820.html
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stay juicy!

blakes
KVRist
147 posts since 14 Aug, 2004

Post Mon May 05, 2008 4:12 am

oh i forgot playdelay could comes close to what you want. and of course its ( sort of ;-) a lot bigger brother feedback machine
courtney did it!

PTV
KVRAF
2121 posts since 5 Jan, 2006

Post Mon May 05, 2008 4:53 am


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