Deep House Chords..

How to make that sound...
Lexx Diggler
KVRer
15 posts since 24 Oct, 2008 from UK

Post Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:09 pm

People;

Im new to the forum and it seems like a real goldmine of information, full of talented, intellectual, goal driven people who love to share even their most treasured production secrets....

(Ok, sucking up over.....!)

One thing thats been eluding me over my short lived bedroom-producer career is the synthesis of a nice filtered chord sound. (i guess the clues in the description, but please read on...)

Im talking agnes / serafin / sascha dive type of sounds....

Whilst i can competently throw together a patch consisting of a couple of detuned filtered saw waves and play a minor chord, i just am not getting the sound i want....

As much as i hate sample CD's, i have noticed that the sound i want turns up frequently... although im too proud to use the sample, i want to learn how to do it!

Its similar to a rhodes, but more electronic....

Assuming my initial synth programming creates a good grounding, what further steps would you recommend me to take in order to achieve my nirvana?

I can post a sample if it helps, but im sure like minded people will know what i mean

Any help would be much appreciated.........

djmadmanly
KVRer
25 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Shawnigan lake vancouver island

Post Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:12 pm

do you have a link to a sample of what type of sound it is?

mabe ill be able to help if i can hear it.

blueeye
KVRer
26 posts since 17 Dec, 2007

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:59 am

soundsample would be nice

mrjameskent
KVRist
65 posts since 9 Apr, 2008

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:14 am

Hi Lexx,

Welcome to the family, think you and I have very similar tastes.

Sadly I can't answer your question (but will be checking answers :)) but the great thing about this forum is that people know a LOT, and audio samples will help get answers from experts who don't know the scene but will know the 'sounds'.

J

fceramic
KVRian
1289 posts since 1 Jun, 2008

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:32 am

Saw waves and rhodes are quite far apart. So please add a sample.

Optomadic
KVRAF
6125 posts since 18 Oct, 2007

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:37 am

Do you mean Agnès and Sascha D?
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stay juicy!

Lexx Diggler
KVRer
15 posts since 24 Oct, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:09 am

Optomadic wrote:Do you mean Agnès and Sascha D?
I do my friend ; )

http://www.myspace.com/monsieurserafin - Gerd 001 - the filtered chord on the down beat (or any of the synth work actually, un-believable!)

http://www.myspace.com/saschadivegoingdeeper - RD's Movement starting @ 2.19 - the chord sound that forms the backbone of the track

http://www.myspace.com/agnesprod - Catch The Beat RMX - slighlty different, but chordy nonetheless

I can load a sample off a sample CD too if required...

I apologise for my rather vague description btw, i appreciate a saw wave and rhodes are miles apart, but hopefully youll get what i mean.

Thanks for the response so far, much appreciated..!

TristezaOrange
angelboy
4599 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:24 am

I never really tried to make that sound but whenever I listen to it I think 'Hmm, LP-filtered Rhodes' to myself. I'll see what I can do and get back to you!

mw
KVRist
370 posts since 12 Nov, 2005

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:38 am

you can try out a va organ patch/ep with the cutoff turned down. maybe put a light flanger on top.

TristezaOrange
angelboy
4599 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:47 am


TristezaOrange
angelboy
4599 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:51 am

It's mda ePiano played in low velocity with Ambience for some reverb, Classic Phaser for er... phasing :D , Transient Monster to make the attack softer and Frohmage for the filtering. I know it doesn't sound exactly like your examples but I believe that it's just a matter of more attention to detail (I did this in 5 minutes). If you take some time, I believe you can get really close. :)

For example, the filtering should probably start with the transient of the Rhodes sound and the release should probably be removed in an audio editor or with a gate so that the sound is more staccat-ish.

Also, keep in mind that for this kind of music you should probably play major/minor 7ths - put that fourth note in there and it'll sound instantly house-y [Cmaj7 and Fmaj7 in my example].
Last edited by TristezaOrange on Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:59 am, edited 3 times in total.

TristezaOrange
angelboy
4599 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:52 am

Oh, also e-phonic Retro Delay for the hi-hat and jb Ferox for the kick. :D

mw
KVRist
370 posts since 12 Nov, 2005

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:01 pm

thanks TristezaOrange for the tutorial, nice!

soulibertad
KVRist
46 posts since 11 Jul, 2006

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:06 pm

Also been trying for ages to get this sound, just can't seem to make it happen!

TristezaOrange
angelboy
4599 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus

Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:17 pm

mw wrote:thanks TristezaOrange for the tutorial, nice!
You're welcome! :)

Your suggestion for using an organ sound instead of a Rhodes will probably sound as good or even better I think. I'll have to try that!

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