Vibraphone without Vibrato?

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maiki
KVRer
20 posts since 19 Dec, 2004

Post Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:31 pm

Could someone recommend a vibraphone sound without vibrato, or one that is possible to configure without vibrato? (It could also be considered a metallophone sound. Not an ethnic one though, as in a Javanese gamelan, but playing the tempered chromatic scale.)

A marimba or xylophone sound would not be appropriate for what I am looking for here, as I want the metal sound, not wood, with the longer sustain, mellow attacks, but without the vibrato present in many vibraphone samples.

SWTrex
KVRian
1410 posts since 19 Mar, 2004

Post Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:21 pm

Check out the "Viby" samples (and sfz mapping) in this thread:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3343071

VibraphoneTS (also referenced in that thread) is also good, but has a little bit of vibrato even with the setting at minimum (although it sounds more like a tremolo to me).

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dysfunctionz
KVRist
371 posts since 27 May, 2007

Post Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:57 pm

You might check out Vibsym from Acousticsamples- detailed, multisampled vibraphone for Kontakt and EXS24, SFZ is supposedly coming soon. €34 (about $50US). Definitely no vibrato. I don't know if you're looking for a super realistic vibraphone sound, but if you are this is it.

http://www.acousticsamples.net/home.html

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KVRAF
3057 posts since 9 Apr, 2003

Post Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:26 pm

Image-Line Ogun specializes in metallic timbres such as bells and gongs -- maybe you could tweak up something with that?
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Meffy
Skunk Mod
20872 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture

Post Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:34 pm

Try glockenspiel or celeste. They might be close but won't have exactly the sound of the vibraphone's aluminum bars.

IIRC the vibrato on a vibraphone is a motorized effect that can be switched off, so maybe there are switched-off vibe samples around.

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foosnark
KVRAF
5064 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:44 pm

Would a vibraphone without vibrato just be a phone? :D

SWTrex
KVRian
1410 posts since 19 Mar, 2004

Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:30 am

foosnark wrote:Would a vibraphone without vibrato just be a phone? :D
... or when my cell is on vibrate, is it a vibraphone? :D :D
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jobromedia
KVRAF
4830 posts since 10 Feb, 2006 from Stockholm, Sweden

Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:13 am

Jokes aside the vibraphone in Miroslav Philharmonic CE has no vibrato at all.
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maiki
KVRer
20 posts since 19 Dec, 2004

Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:55 am

SWTrex wrote: (although it sounds more like a tremolo to me).

SWTrex
You are correct. The vibraphone does not actually have vibrato (despite the name), but tremelo.

I guess due to the name vibraphone the word vibrato came to me first, but technically it isn't really vibrato, it is tremelo.

Thank you to all for your suggestions, I will check them out.

maiki
KVRer
20 posts since 19 Dec, 2004

Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:33 am

dysfunctionz wrote:You might check out Vibsym from Acousticsamples- detailed, multisampled vibraphone for Kontakt and EXS24, SFZ is supposedly coming soon. €34 (about $50US). Definitely no vibrato. I don't know if you're looking for a super realistic vibraphone sound, but if you are this is it.

http://www.acousticsamples.net/home.html
They have two vibe samples there, the one called Viby is free, and the one called Vibysym (something like that), costs that 34 euros. Is the pay one much better than the free one? Does the free one also have no built-in tremelo?

I'm downloading the free one right now. (In case the designer of their web site is reading, I should mention, that I was unable to initiate the download of the free viby in Firefox. Clicking the download arrow did nothing. (Could have something to do with their popup blocker, or Adblock extension.)I had to switch to IE, to be able to download it. (It opens a tab to Megaupload, that has the file.

(Well, actually, now IE crashed, in trying to download Viby from Megaupload. I'll have to try again. I'd suggest a different, simpler way to set up your files for downloading.)

BFunKu
KVRAF
2812 posts since 30 Oct, 2006 from The City that Started House Music

Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:40 am

You could try the free sample based VibraphoneTS VSTi it has a vibrato control so you could just turn it off. Plus it sounds damn good. Probably better than most Vibraphone sf2s. 8)
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thysm00
KVRian
827 posts since 5 May, 2008 from France

Post Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:35 am

The sfz version of the vibysm is out!

VibysM
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Kevin Raftery
KVRer
1 posts since 11 Jul, 2009 from London

Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:51 am

dysfunctionz wrote:You might check out Vibsym from Acousticsamples... Definitely no vibrato...
I've just looked at their site, which is advertising VibsyM V2. There are three demos on the page. The vibe sound in the "Classical" demo sounds like there is, indeed, no tremolo -- ie. motor off. You can hear this at the end of the demo. But their "Vibsym2" demo clearly has the motor on; you can hear this in the long chords about 80% of the way through.

So one could get the idea that it's controllable. But if you go to the "Screenshots" and choose "Interface", you see a Kontakt instrument whose only controls are Tune, pedalnoise, and release.

Anyone know how these two different effects were produced from one instrument?

If the basic instrument has motor off, and the wah-wah effect was achieved by some real-time modulation, then I'm happy.

Thanks.

xoxos
Mr Entertainment
12148 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid

Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:27 am

here to mention my own vst :lol:

phybes demo has a couple of voices of poly, sound engine is a banded waveguide.
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ZombyWoof
KVRian
630 posts since 12 Mar, 2005

Post Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:57 am

xoxos wrote:here to mention my own vst :lol:

phybes demo has a couple of voices of poly, sound engine is a banded waveguide.
xoxos beat me to it. +1 for phybes!

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