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Sugar Bytes · Post by **Sugar Bytes** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:57 am

Maybe we are talking about different things.

The grey step up/down/left/right buttons are midilearnable, like in this picture.

And this does not work ?

VSTJuNkiE · Post by **VSTJuNkiE** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:03 am

Is cheaper prices considered a "feature request"

tomoe97 · Post by **tomoe97** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:03 am

After a little more testing, here's what I learned: midi learn is definitely buggy on the MacBook when one uses Ctrl+Click to access it. For some functions (e.g., individual steps), the drop down menu appears, but for many others (e.g., Step Shift Control) it does not. However, when I programmed the trackpad of my MacBook to function as a Right-Click whenever I press the lower-right (or left) corner, then the midi learn menu appears and works just fine.

mbncp · Post by **mbncp** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:23 am

Two more requests

A global time offset in msec would be really usefull when using host trigger mode. Midi routing or when using external synth can make the timing a little off. Would be also interesting when playing notes to a patch with a long attack where it's common to play notes a bit early.

Also a global start position would be nice. Due to some timing problems I often start a song on bar 2 or 3, would be nice to let Thesys know.

broc · Post by **broc** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:35 am

mbncp wrote:Also a global start position would be nice. Due to some timing problems I often start a song on bar 2 or 3, would be nice to let Thesys know.

+1

Sugar Bytes · Post by **Sugar Bytes** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:50 am

Just a hint,

if you trigger Thesys by "Note On" or "Note Toggle",
you can start and stop it at any time using a midi note.
That way you can compensate timing issues as well.

Best
Rico

mbncp · Post by **mbncp** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:24 pm

Sugar Bytes wrote:Just a hint,

if you trigger Thesys by "Note On" or "Note Toggle",
you can start and stop it at any time using a midi note.
That way you can compensate timing issues as well.

Best
Rico

Yes I'm aware of that, but I actually use a couple of instances of Thesys just to trigger randomly (or not) some other instances of Thesys and a few other stuff like guru, to avoid having these triggers in the host.

These Thesys triggers are very helpful as I can change the resolution or behaviour with a click or two. To have the same flexibily within the host would be a bit challenging and especially time consuming.

broc · Post by **broc** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:35 am

Sugar Bytes wrote:Just a hint,

if you trigger Thesys by "Note On" or "Note Toggle",
you can start and stop it at any time using a midi note.
That way you can compensate timing issues as well.

Best
Rico

I've tried using "Note Toggle" by putting a note on the arrangement in Live.
It works well for starting Thesys at this point.
But the problem is that I don't have a fixed duration of the composition.
So I can't set a stop note, and Thesys keeps running when stopping the host.

In this case it would be useful to have a "Note One Shot" trigger for start,
leaving stop control to the host.

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:50 am

Unless I'm doing something wrong, I'd love a simple sync rather than a trigger by midi sequence (personally a pain in the ass every time). I'd prefer a simple sync choice and hit start on the sequencer and bam, it plays..For those who want more control over patterns, etc, then one can always use the triggers.

Sugar Bytes · Post by **Sugar Bytes** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:09 pm

aniajudie wrote:I'd prefer a simple sync choice and hit start on the sequencer and bam, it plays..For those who want more control over patterns, etc, then one can always use the triggers.

Set the "Trigger Mode" button to "Host".
Thesys will start and stop along with your song then,
exactly like you describe it

Best
Rico

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:48 am

Sugar Bytes wrote:
aniajudie wrote:I'd prefer a simple sync choice and hit start on the sequencer and bam, it plays..For those who want more control over patterns, etc, then one can always use the triggers.
Set the "Trigger Mode" button to "Host".
Thesys will start and stop along with your song then,
exactly like you describe it

Best
Rico

GREAT!!
Thanks..you are brilliant!

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:19 am

Tie button would be sweet like in Era so gates could be linked for longer times.

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:27 pm

also be nice to choose from prefs: pitch random amount could show in pitches like C / D/ E..rather than %.

aniajudie · Post by **aniajudie** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:57 am

three more thing:

I would like a way to see a highlighted area that shows the note that one is trying to modify. I mean if I am trying to add a chord to a note but can be lost of which note I want if a highlighted line would be illuminated on the specific note, than it would be easier to work on. Maybe step edit does this.

piano roll if desired / graph to piano roll.like in Fruity Loops

Also, if the sequences lengths could be independent. Eg: Pitch notes could be 8 steps, gate (3), velocity (8)..Can get some interesting lines.
Doepfer MAQ sequencer I think did this.

http://www.doepfer.de/maq_e.htm

stephenbaishya · Post by **stephenbaishya** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:36 am

How about some LFOs that can output MIDI CCs?

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