2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

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Andrew Souter
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2417 posts since 12 Sep, 2008

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:48 am

Max369 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:17 am
I also wondered how can I use only early reflections if needed?
Just turn Time to the minimum value. Then you have almost completely ERs. If you want later echos/reflections/delays use a huge size. Huge size with min time will be like a multi-tap delay.

Alternatively, use Balance mode and set mix/balance to the minimum, and this will give something like ERs. More like extremely dense sense of instant space. You won't hear "Reflections" per say, but generally that is what is desired. You really don't want reflections/echoes in most cases. You want a sense of width and space.
Max369 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:17 am
Great GUI colors! Especially first and second images! :tu:
Thanks. Second one is called "Chocolate Banana" :D It's unusual/non-standard for sure, but it is kinda fun and is a nice change for the pure gray-scale and blue/green we use normally.

Anyway, the cool thing is you have a ton of options to make your own schemes now if you so desire. Obviously what really matters most is the sound as Calagan said, but something like Breeze is probably a "use every day of your working life" kind of tool, so it's fun to mix it up sometimes.

Svama
KVRian
709 posts since 23 Sep, 2008 from Germany

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:55 am

Hi Andrew, I mean the reverb, you can’t tweak and hear the effect at the same time. Inital after tweaking you hear what you did, not that great.

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Andrew Souter
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Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:13 am

Svama wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:55 am
Hi Andrew, I mean the reverb, you can’t tweak and hear the effect at the same time. Inital after tweaking you hear what you did, not that great.
For technical reasons we "clear the buffer" when we do updates. If we did not it is possible to have very loud pops.

I know smooth automation of parameters is a big feature request (this is the same topic), and it's something we would like to do eventually, but part of the reason we are so highly praised for our sound is do to how we set various things up and they are not easily adjustable in a continuous manner. It's not completely impossible per-say, but if we wanted to do it and retain our exact sound (which would be critical of course) it would require A LOT more CPU. Anyway, we hear ya and everyone who has same the same.

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XComposer
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235 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:19 am

Oh… so, I should name my favorites among your color scheme examples… second and third!
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jbraner
KVRian
812 posts since 8 Jan, 2003

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:10 am

Just to clarify:
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Button 1 enables P-Link? (so I'm telling Breeze that I have Precedence before it)
Button 2 does what? Uses a different (PD Adjust) type of pre-delay?

Calagan
KVRer
2 posts since 13 Oct, 2018

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:16 am

Hi Andrew

Thanks a lot for your answers, and your presence on this forum...

For answering your answers :

- Thanks for the pdf manual... No pb, we can wait 2 weeks (specially that the new features are not something incredibly new)...

- The style of GUI I like the most ? For a plugin, I like clean and clear GUI (specially if the plugin is complicated). IMHO, less is more, good design is a minimalist (but practical) design. Fabfilter are great at that. DMG Audio are quite cool too. In the "analog style", I like the designs of Audio Thing stuff or Soundtoys.

- About the fact 2 identical instances don't null, i'm very curious about that, but I respect your "industrial secrecy" ;)

- Regarding the balance between ER/LR, I think the absence of a ER/LR mix button (or anything near) is still a weak point of Breeze. And I still don't hear the subtleties (or the interest in this regard) of the "Balance" mix.
But it makes room for your other products I guess, and anyway, you need to let space to the competition and can't make THE perfect product... ;)

Your precedence product looks very cool, but it's a bit expensive for me...

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sqigls
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3386 posts since 25 Dec, 2004 from Melbourne, Australia

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:19 am

jbraner wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:10 am
Just to clarify:
Image

Button 1 enables P-Link? (so I'm telling Breeze that I have Precedence before it)
Button 2 does what? Uses a different (PD Adjust) type of pre-delay?
locks the function of button 1 so you can toggle through presets without needing to re-link it every time

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Andrew Souter
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2417 posts since 12 Sep, 2008

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:48 am

sqigls wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:19 am
locks the function of button 1 so you can toggle through presets without needing to re-link it every time
correct!

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Andrew Souter
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Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:25 am

Calagan wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:16 am
- About the fact 2 identical instances don't null, i'm very curious about that, but I respect your "industrial secrecy" ;)
Generally because that is the way it is in the real world works to one degree or another. Life is always in motion. It's like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

each and every moment is unique. each and every single impulse response you could capture form Breeze is unique. every single sample of every single song of every single user from now until the end of the universe is a unique impulse.

even without modulation if you use alg randomize for example there are an infinite variety of impulse responses... at least I could mathematically prove it to be at least 2^3072 variations, but I think it is actually literally infinite, and the difference between 2^3072 and infinity is meaningless for humans anyway. :borg:

experimental.crow
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5585 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from The Druid Hills

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Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:53 am

enjoying the new update ...
thank you ...
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jbraner
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812 posts since 8 Jan, 2003

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:45 am

Andrew Souter wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:48 am
sqigls wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:19 am
locks the function of button 1 so you can toggle through presets without needing to re-link it every time
correct!
Ahhh thanks. So #2 is just a lock button :wink:

jens
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18946 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

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Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:37 pm

An that's why the image shows a lock. ;-) (just like the wet-dry/balance lock-button)

Perhaps you ought consider getting yourself a pair of glasses - did wonders for me :hihi:
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" It is a measurable fact. Not my opinion. And not even subtle. If you can't hear difference in tail between Valhalla and VSR reverb tail then again change your job dude." kmonkey

jens
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18946 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:30 pm

I used Precedence and Breeze 2.1 extensively on one of the tracks I am currently working on. I did not use Breeze on every track, but on most of them - Precedence I think I put on every track.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jgxqm7g8rkf5j ... l.mp3?dl=0
" It is a measurable fact. Not my opinion. And not even subtle. If you can't hear difference in tail between Valhalla and VSR reverb tail then again change your job dude." kmonkey

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Andrew Souter
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Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:00 pm

jens wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:30 pm
I used Precedence and Breeze 2.1 extensively on one of the tracks I am currently working on. I did not use Breeze on every track, but on most of them - Precedence I think I put on every track.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jgxqm7g8rkf5j ... l.mp3?dl=0
Nice mix! and cool music!
Last edited by Andrew Souter on Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Andrew Souter
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Re: 2CAudio Breeze 2.1 | P-Link | Sub-Zero Suspend-On-Slience | Chameleon Color

Post Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:00 pm

Andrew Souter wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:00 pm
jens wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:30 pm
I used Precedence and Breeze 2.1 extensively on one of the tracks I am currently working on. I did not use Breeze on every track, but on most of them - Precedence I think I put on every track.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jgxqm7g8rkf5j ... l.mp3?dl=0
Nice mix! and cool music!

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