difference in sound...

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dave dove
KVRian
996 posts since 31 Aug, 2007 from wales

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:11 am

i know i'll get flamed for this:

i have both ableton live 8 and presonus S1 pro
i've been using live for a couple years
i'm now exploring S1
they sound completely different

i've read up on this and understand most what people are saying
but
it can't be the sampling engines 'cos i use mostly vsts
it can't be pan laws 'cos it's the same in mono
i'm not saying either is better
but they are so different

i'll try post up some examples
if i get time and can work out how to transfer a simple project between them....

dave

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GeorgeZ
KVRAF
2925 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:24 am

Image :lol:
Eternitysound VST Banks

Nokenoku
KVRAF
1709 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Berlin, Germany

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:25 am

If you do an error-analysis (which means to just break things down one by one and look, where the differences appear), you will find out, that you are actually doing different things in both DAW programs.

This is the only reason, why it sounds different.

maxxxter

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:44 am

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soulmelt
KVRist
33 posts since 24 Dec, 2008

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:54 am

I agree, i have been using studio one and live. live stretch engine does alter sound. I use repitch where possible. Also think studio one has great rich sound.

check out my music

http://soundcloud.com/soulmelt

http://soulmelt.com/

xamido
KVRian
1301 posts since 1 May, 2010

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:07 am

No point of discussing this one. All of us know that deep inside we hear things differently when they are run through different DAW. But we cannot explain it in scientific way. I'd think of this as a true placebo effect. People can smash all of these differences scientifically but we just know that it's different. :lol:

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osiris
KVRAF
7136 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:20 am

A DAW doesn't sound different. What sounds different is your soundcard. How your DAW interacts with the ASIO. I had the generic soundcard and installed an M-Audio Audiophile. Guess what? My DAW sounded better. I had cheap Sony headphones and got some JBL's. It sounded even better.
I also think it's the drivers you use. When I did synths in SE I ran it on non-ASIO drivers. (SE would freak out if you tried to run ASIO) When the new version came out, ASIO was no longer an issue, so I ran it on that. Seemed to my ears there was a minute difference. Enough for me to want to run it on ASIO.

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dave dove
KVRian
996 posts since 31 Aug, 2007 from wales

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:57 am

i'm not using live's "stretch engine"
'cos i'm not using samples
i want to use S1 for it's workflow
and live for live use
but i can't figure why they sound so different
my ears aren't stupid...

the soundcard is the same for both softwares
and whilst it may be that i am doing something differently
i don't know what it is
and for me to use both i need to resolve this difference...

dave

Raddler
KVRist
80 posts since 20 May, 2008 from Montreal

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:10 am

I don't care what anyone says, every DAW has it's own character sound. Some being better than others. Ableton is low on the list imo.

damoog
KVRian
991 posts since 31 May, 2007

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:21 am

without sounding arrogant i am completely convinced that S1 pro just blows everything out of the water sound wise,it just sounds so rich without applying anything to it,it has a polished sound to it almost on its own...i also think record(and r6 of course) also have a superior sound to almost all other DAWS :-o
MOOG SUB37 / ELEKTRON ANALOG RYTM / STRYMON BLUESKY / NI KOMPLETE KONTROL / OMNIPSHERE / ARTURIA V-COLLECTION / LIVE 9 / DIVA / FABFILTER PRO-Q / MACBOOK PRO------ :love: LAVA LAMP FOR INSPIRATION :love:

fandango
KVRAF
3591 posts since 5 Jan, 2006 from UK

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:24 am

I get a distinct hint of lemon and wild jasmine from Cubase. There's more of a hint of sandalwood in Sonar, but it's balanced by wild burst of blackcurrent aromas.

UltraJv
KVRAF
6236 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from London uk

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:25 am

Here we go - this comes up frequently on KVR, usually ending in tears, insults and bans. How about posting A vs B tests, including null tests. That way we can get the nasty stuff out the way and get the kitty pics up quicker :-)

There is another way of course, check this thread on different DAW sounds :

http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showthrea ... -Platforms

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
14217 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:36 am

Yeah p!sses me off too.
I was out on the w/e, drunk as a skunk & tripping balls. Having a wicked night.
Then a track came on and I knew straight away it was recorded in Logic. Totally ruined my night. Simply couldnt dance to it.
If only they had of used Cubase...
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Jbravo
KVRian
1454 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:56 am

imageline have resorted to a permanent page to address the supposed "FLstudio sound" - and DAW wars generally

http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=45272

dgkenney
KVRian
1303 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California

Post Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:03 am

Raddler wrote:I don't care what anyone says,
Good for you!

Dan
Those that can, do. Those that can't, argue about it on k-v-r

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