Pro Tools 10 is here

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KVRian
507 posts since 6 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:59 pm

http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-Software

Edit: didn't realize Lawrence started a thread already. :dog:

KVRian
891 posts since 4 Jul, 2007

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:25 pm

Well, that was a pretty quick 10, considering that PT 9 was released not so long ago......... or so it seems.

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KVRAF
6626 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:32 pm

Still not 64-bit. :nutter:

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KVRAF
7903 posts since 24 May, 2009 from Nationalism isn't my thing...

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:37 pm

cryophonik wrote:Still not 64-bit. :nutter:
That's what happens when you can sell based on just your name. You don't need to keep up with the Jones'.

(I mean no offense at all to anyone who uses Pro Tools)
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KVRian
1084 posts since 12 Sep, 2008 from Your basement

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:37 pm

Features seem.... sort of.... not exciting. Sort of like Sibelius 7.
This gives me a soft off.

KVRian
891 posts since 4 Jul, 2007

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:42 pm

cryophonik wrote:Still not 64-bit. :nutter:
I was at a Cubase seminar the other night, and the presenter started off with the 32/64 bit debate, and he was of the opinion that people creating music with samples and mostly electronica might run into the memory limit, but that people in recording studios were mostly happily running 32-bit - although he didn't say "Pro Tools" 32-bit.
:wink:

KVRian

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507 posts since 6 Nov, 2009

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:06 pm

cryophonik wrote:Still not 64-bit. :nutter:
Based on the Pro Tools 10 FAQ, it looks like PT11 will be 64-bit:
...Pro Tools 10 is still a 32-bit application to support Pro Tools|HD TDM systems and older ("blue") Avid Pro Tools|HD interfaces. Because these older hardware systems will not support 64-bit, it was important for us to do one final Pro Tools release at 32-bit... Pro Tools 10 will be the final full version release to support Pro Tools|HD (TDM) hardware and legacy "Digidesign" audio interfaces, as we make our transition to a full 64-bit application...

KVRAF
42530 posts since 21 Dec, 2005

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:16 pm

@protools 10: Didn't we just get a protools 9?

@64 bit: Protools isn't for midi ( oh yes he did! )

@better sound: But does it have higher fidelity, that's what the big question is!

@daw world: Well considering I got stuck for 200 for useless wastes of trash in the last 12 months I'm pretty cynical but hey, if those guys in that video say are that excited.......well........so am I!

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KVRist
143 posts since 7 Apr, 2006

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:16 pm

best part are the upgrade prices...

http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/protools10/

:shock:

KVRAF
42530 posts since 21 Dec, 2005

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:22 pm

total crack heads!

"hi, I'd like to upgrade from my 300 dollar mpowered version 7?"

avid

"bend over"

No no, that's ok

KVRAF
16120 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:44 pm

hibidy wrote:@protools 10: Didn't we just get a protools 9?
Not too long ago, yes. Maybe a year? I'm on version 9, but don't remember when I got it.
@64 bit: Protools isn't for midi ( oh yes he did! )
I wish PT was 64-bit, but I completely disagree about it not being for MIDI. The PT MIDI is actually extremely capable and is actually full-featured. Honestly, I look at it as one of the top three overall, both feature-wise and usability-wise. It's amazingly powerful.
@better sound: But does it have higher fidelity, that's what the big question is!
Of course it does(joking).
@daw world: Well considering I got stuck for 200 for useless wastes of trash in the last 12 months I'm pretty cynical but hey, if those guys in that video say are that excited.......well........so am I!
I'm a PT user(not for most tasks, but I use it still), and I'm not really excited at all about this release. I would like the performance improvements that are apparently there, but I'm just not seeing much to warrant a $300 price tag. It's a very "light" upgrade, IMO, and I'll be sticking with 9 for the time being and probably until version 11. I see this as more of a point release, but others may value the new stuff more.

Brent
My host is better than your host

KVRian
1302 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:49 pm

I am as underwhelmed as you all seem to be by the announcement but understand that it isn't really aimed at the music producing crowd. PT 10 is clearly aimed at Post if you understand the feature set and hardware offerings.

Unfortunately it is also the first warning that TDM is going away after PT 10, albeit supported at least for the next 5 years. The new HDX systems will support an upgraded format and both TDM and RTAS will be exiting stage right.

If you are a home studio or small project studio nothing here (IMO) is really good news. If you are a commercial post facility you are probably licking you lips in anticipation.
:(
I'll go even farther and say it looks to me like Avid is moving away from "lower level" enthusiast markets with their upgrade prices and lack of a successor for the 003 line. I think the mid-level is disappearing in favor of a mbox or HDX choice. I think that Avid see it's future in the broadcast and Post world with the Audio as a follow-along to it's media business. This is a direction that Avid has pursued since they disassembled Digi over the last few years. The executive staff no longer has anyone who comes from an audio background.

Life goes on and S1/2 is looking better and better :)
Those that can, do. Those that can't, argue about it on k-v-r

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KVRist
143 posts since 7 Apr, 2006

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:56 pm

Prices for HD systems are equally insane.

I'm feeling for all the small studios out there.

By the way, does Reaper support .omf ?

KVRAF
42530 posts since 21 Dec, 2005

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:59 pm

koolkeys wrote:
hibidy wrote:
@64 bit: Protools isn't for midi ( oh yes he did! )
I wish PT was 64-bit, but I completely disagree about it not being for MIDI. The PT MIDI is actually extremely capable and is actually full-featured. Honestly, I look at it as one of the top three overall, both feature-wise and usability-wise. It's amazingly powerful.
lol! TOTALLY joking around.

but seriously, how DO all those "pros" get around the ram limitations? Seems to me that many many people are using quite a bit of virtual instruments. My old cubase system would be at it's KNEES with all the VI's I use these days.

Does PT have a way to run like reaper where a 32 bit host can take advantage of extra ram??

KVRAF
42530 posts since 21 Dec, 2005

Post Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:00 pm

koolkeys wrote:I see this as more of a point release, but others may value the new stuff more.

Brent
A point release? At those prices? :o

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