BR: T4 Midi timing offset issue

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bk
KVRian
1478 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis

Post Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:25 pm

Just recorded a short midi thing using a keyboard controller and a softsynth. when playing it in, it sounded fine, and close to "in time". When played back, it was horrendously off. I had to offset around 400 ticks to get it to play in time with the other stuff (midi drum pattern dragged in from Superior Drummer).

I tried the same thing in T3, and it worked like it always has: perfectly in time. Seems like I must be missing something. Any ideas?

winXP 32 bit.

bk
KVRian
1478 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis

Post Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:46 pm

Tried in Reaper 4. It worked fine. Went back and tried it again in T4 and it worked fine too! WTF. It failed on 2 different tracks with two different synths before. Nothing changed. :nutter:

paradiddle
KVRian
1452 posts since 15 Aug, 2001 from montreal, canada

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:18 am

I'm getting this also. PLaying a drumbeat on the keyboard to the click. It's fine when recording but on playback, it's all desynced.
Stuck in Aperture Laboratories for a 2nd time!

bk
KVRian
1478 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:21 am

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I wasn't imagining it, but can't recreate it at the moment. The notes were played in "on the beat", and sounded that way while recording, but the midi notes shown in the clip after recording were shifted late around 400 ticks.

paradiddle
KVRian
1452 posts since 15 Aug, 2001 from montreal, canada

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:52 am

Yep same here again! I can reproduce this all the time.

I've also put a quarter note kick on on the grid and I've overdubbed the upbeats on the hh. Same thing again.

Haven't tried with audio yet.
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fedexnman
KVRAF
2371 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:51 pm

Same here , ezdrummer , i even went back and turned metronome on and recorded straight quarter notes to the click and it was way off .

pquenin
KVRian
594 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:58 pm

todd sweetland wrote:Same here , ezdrummer , i even went back and turned metronome on and recorded straight quarter notes to the click and it was way off .
have you set a "quantise" value to your midi in device ?

fedexnman
KVRAF
2371 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:02 pm

0 quantize value but whats weird its default setting underneath says 100% I even set that to zero too , never had this problem with the T1 T2 or T3 ....

fedexnman
KVRAF
2371 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:25 pm

Temporary FIXED the PROBLEM :
1. go to " settings "
2. then to MIDI i/o
3. look at the middle of the screen 3 quarters way to the bottom, SEE...
(o) use MIDI driver for MIDI timing
^ unclick that circle so its not filled or marked
( ) use MIDI driver for MIDI timing
So it was just a bad default setting . I had the same problem as the OP timing was right but playback wasn't , this fixed it . Might want to send this fix to JULES .....
Last edited by fedexnman on Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

fedexnman
KVRAF
2371 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:27 pm

Oh , I was using a m-audio trigger finger 4x4 pad controller .

valley
KVRAF
4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:38 pm

OK, I've passed this on to Jules.

Disabling this setting should probably be considered a temporary fix only, 'cos in principal you should get better timing from the MIDI driver.
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bk
KVRian
1478 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis

Post Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:59 pm

valley wrote:OK, I've passed this on to Jules.

Disabling this setting should probably be considered a temporary fix only, 'cos in principal you should get better timing from the MIDI driver.
Yeah, I always thought the midi driver should control this.

I'm off to test this again. I'll report back.

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