Fragile Gods - "Synapse 2 Synapse"

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KVRAF
5701 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:03 pm

This is a brand new recording of a song I originally wrote and recorded in 1999. I always wanted to redo "Synapse 2 Synapse" since it was one of my better early efforts.

Fragile Gods "Synapse 2 Synapse"

http://soundcloud.com/fragilegods/synapse2synapse/

Although I decided not to change the music at all, I spent a lot of time on sound design, programming all new sounds from scratch. I think the section at 2:43 came out pretty good. It features the late, great Cubase Interactive Phrase Synthesizer (pictured below) which was capable of generating some cool arp-like parts in between frequent crashes.

Although not properly mastered, I did gently use a brickwall limiter (Fab Filter Pro-L) to bring up the levels a little.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Synths: TAL-U-NO-LX, Korg PolySix, Z3TA +2, Audjoo Helix, Rayblaster
Drums: Tattoo, Drumatic

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KVRist
410 posts since 4 Dec, 2004 from Planet blipp

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:13 pm

This reminded me of some of the stuff i was listening to in the 80's from artists like "Front 242" and "Front line assembly"

The "Arp" break section does work really well and is an inspired choice.

There are some really nice melodies weaving in and out of this that i liked a lot and they contrast nicely with the industrial beats and robotic voice.

The mix sounds good on my speakers.

Nice work Frantz

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KVRAF
7684 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:48 pm

great tune! and the mix is spot on. lows, mids, highs all even and playing in harmony. vocals sound great for the music style too. i dont think anyone can master it any better than it already sounds. :tu: :clap: :phones:
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

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something special
8503 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:28 pm

what a cool track, Frantz!

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KVRAF
10298 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:59 pm

Hey Frantz. All of my crockery just fell out of the cupboard. Must be a plate reverb :hihi:

Great synth sounds on here, and I really like the echo effect with the pitch/time shift on the vox. It's a great song, which reminded me a little of Dynamo Beat by Shock (an '80s one hit wonder, so you've outlasted them). Nice job with the vocals and percussion and I see you even managed to squeeze in a middle-eastern melody.

Well balanced mix.

Good work :)

KVRAF
3273 posts since 22 Jul, 2009

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:47 pm

excellent!

reminds me of frontline assembly/thrill kill kult/skinny puppy/etc. maybe it would just need a heavier snare; at least in certain passages?

--Cubase Interactive Phrase Synthesizer -- ...was that on the atari st?

cool arp break...

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KVRAF

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5701 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:04 pm

blipp wrote:This reminded me of some of the stuff i was listening to in the 80's from artists like "Front 242" and "Front line assembly"

The "Arp" break section does work really well and is an inspired choice.

There are some really nice melodies weaving in and out of this that i liked a lot and they contrast nicely with the industrial beats and robotic voice.
Thanks for your insightful comments blipp. Yes, Front 242 and FLA were influences, especially early 242. I've had a lo-fi recording of this track for 13 years which I finally got around to redoing. I was a little anxious about revisiting it but it's very reassuring to have someone immediately pick up on and appreciate all of the key elements.

I look forward to hearing more of your stuff. "Magnetic Winds" is still in heavy rotation.

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KVRAF

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5701 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:15 pm

layzer wrote:great tune! and the mix is spot on. lows, mids, highs all even and playing in harmony. vocals sound great for the music style too. i dont think anyone can master it any better than it already sounds. :tu: :clap: :phones:
:phew: What a relief! Some people worry about the economy. Others worry about North Korea. I was mostly worried that you might say there is too much sibilance in the vox or not enough high frequencies. :D Now that the mix got a thumbs up from layzer, my worries are over and I am going to sleep like a baby tonight. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

KVRAF
8072 posts since 12 Dec, 2003 from Canada

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:35 am

Cool piece Frantz! Good synth sound palette and I think you hit the right level of processing on the vocal. I'd agree with mrblitz that the snare could be beefier, but :tu: all the way!

p.s. I like the way you squeezed scaffolding in there. :)
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KVRAF
2086 posts since 11 Feb, 2003

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:22 am

Very cool! Brings back memories from the early 90's. I loved all the great sounds of ministry, revolting cocks, frontline assembly, 1000 homo Dj's...great decade of music. ...even tho it was really late 80's, just had to find it's way to my ears.

Cheers for this and great production and sounds too! :)

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KVRAF
2645 posts since 21 Jul, 2004

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:35 am

excellent tune, really enjoyable. i loved the synth sounds and the production is spot on. wicked.

neil.

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KVRian
1180 posts since 6 Jun, 2002 from Southern Germany

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:07 am

nice one! I liked the sound of the bassdrum in the beginning, the ethno theme popping up the first time @1:17 and the rhythm change @ 2:43. nevertheless I was not quite sure about the vocals - I found them quite prominent in the mix.

anyway it's always cool to give old songs new life!

greetings

wolf

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KVRAF

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5701 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:37 pm

bluedad wrote:what a cool track, Frantz!
Glad you liked it bluedad!

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KVRAF

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5701 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:00 pm

seismic1 wrote:Hey Frantz. All of my crockery just fell out of the cupboard. Must be a plate reverb :hihi:
Hilarious!
seismic1 wrote: Great synth sounds on here, and I really like the echo effect with the pitch/time shift on the vox.

Glad you liked the vocal effects. Good vocalists can just turn on the mic and record. With my croaking vocals (croakals?), I need to spend time finding new and interesting effects to make the vocals palatable. For this track, the pitch shifted delays came from Pitch Funk. There are other vocal effects that I want to experiment with in the future.
seismic1 wrote: It's a great song, which reminded me a little of Dynamo Beat by Shock (an '80s one hit wonder, so you've outlasted them). Nice job with the vocals and percussion and I see you even managed to squeeze in a middle-eastern melody.
Never heard of Dynamo Beat but checking it out on YouTube I do hear the similarity. The video is quite funny. I can assure you there is no visual similarity. I don't do robotic dance moves in graveyards dressed in a cheap vampire costume. Or at least, I won't admit to it. :D

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KVRAF

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5701 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:11 pm

mrblitz wrote:excellent!

reminds me of frontline assembly/thrill kill kult/skinny puppy/etc. maybe it would just need a heavier snare; at least in certain passages?
Thanks mr blitz! Yes, I am familiar with all of those bands. Although I am more partial to the British and European industrial bands such as DAF, Nitzer Ebb, Cabaret Voltaire, Klinik, Portion Control, etc.

My thought was that a loud snare would get fatiguing listening on ear buds but perhaps I should I have boosted it up a notch.
mrblitz wrote: --Cubase Interactive Phrase Synthesizer -- ...was that on the atari st?

cool arp break...
That screenshot may be from the Atari but I was running Cubase and the IPS on Windows ME. It's a shame that DAWs have abandoned creative composition tools like it. You loaded your MIDI clip into the IPS and started fiddling various parameters always recording in case something cool happened. The output was arp-like but more varied and unpredictable.

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