IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning - it's 64-bit only

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mpoirier
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37 posts since 16 Feb, 2005

Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:50 pm

I just bought and downloaded SampleTank 3 to update my SampleTank 2.5 setup.

After a few unsuccessful attempt to scan the plugin in Tracktion 5, my DAW of choice, I realized that the plugin wrongfully installed the 64 bit version. Or so I thought...

I wrote IK Multimedia about the problem only to be told that the plugin ONLY comes in 64 bit version !?!

So beware if you intend to buy this plugin, there is NO 32 bit version !

Of course there was no mention of this fact in the advertizement at the time of purchase...

I always thought IK Multimedia was a reputable company and did not expect them to hide this "feature".

So I just had a $100 lesson.

Be warned !

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ATS
KVRAF
5783 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:07 pm

:lol:
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donato
KVRian
562 posts since 9 Nov, 2003

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:24 pm

Well, there's like a 130 page thread also on the first page saying how much it sucks. You could've just posted this there.

paulbreeze
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1087 posts since 6 Jul, 2009

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:26 pm

mpoirier wrote:Of course there was no mention of this fact in the advertizement at the time of purchase...
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletank3/

Available as standalone and 64-bit plug-in for AAX, VST and Audio Units platforms on Mac OS X and Windows...

mpoirier
KVRist
37 posts since 16 Feb, 2005

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:16 pm

It does not say "64-bit only plug-in".

Usually plugins are 32 bit "by default"...

paulbreeze
KVRian
1087 posts since 6 Jul, 2009

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:24 pm

Usually, yes. But ST3 is something special... ;)

It doesn't say 32bit either.

But to be honest, this should be the least problem with it (can be bridged in either way). We're more concerned regarding included sample quality, program stability and usability...

IKM should have done a public beta period first.

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fmr
KVRAF
7582 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:29 am

I copied the DLL into the 32-bit plug-in folder, and I have it working in 32-bit hosts. Maybe you can try this.
Fernando (FMR)

paulbreeze
KVRian
1087 posts since 6 Jul, 2009

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:37 am

Without bridging? That's interesting. Which host, if I may ask?

Thanks,

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fmr
KVRAF
7582 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:56 am

It was Sonar X3, but VSTHost too, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not near my computer now, so, I cannot say for sure. It was last weekend, when I installed ST3, and was performing a series of tests. Since I noticed it just installed in the 64-bit folder, I had that crazy idea of copying it.
Fernando (FMR)

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Numanoid
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25895 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:42 am

mpoirier wrote:It does not say "64-bit only plug-in".

Usually plugins are 32 bit "by default"...
Sorry mate, but you can't take anything for granted.

Usually 32 bit plugs will do the job well enough, but when it comes to processing large amounts of samples, tweaking in realtime, it becomes more or less a necessity to have access to more than 4GB RAM, something that a 64 bit plug will do.

So if your computer has more than 4GB RAM, wanting to use Stank 3 or other heavy software like Omnisphere in 32 bit mode, is like driving a car with the handbrake on.

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Numanoid
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Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:51 am

mpoirier wrote:After a few unsuccessful attempt to scan the plugin in Tracktion 5, my DAW of choice, I realized that the plugin wrongfully installed the 64 bit version. Or so I thought...
Tracktion doesn't support 64 bit plugs? :o

As the adline goes, that is indeed different in this day and age:

"Have a look at Tracktion and see what makes it so different!"

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whyterabbyt
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26107 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:00 am

Numanoid wrote:
mpoirier wrote:After a few unsuccessful attempt to scan the plugin in Tracktion 5, my DAW of choice, I realized that the plugin wrongfully installed the 64 bit version. Or so I thought...
Tracktion doesn't support 64 bit plugs? :o
The 32-but version doesn't. The 64-bit version does. Kinda obvious really.
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hueynym
KVRist
287 posts since 29 May, 2012

Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:15 am

Numanoid wrote: Tracktion doesn't support 64 bit plugs? :o

As the adline goes, that is indeed different in this day and age:

"Have a look at Tracktion and see what makes it so different!"
I, too, find it odd that the 32bit version of Tracktion doesn't support 64bit plugins. The 64bit version of Tracktion does. For some reason, none of my 12bit custom coded MIPS IRIX plugins seem to work on ANY of my 64bits DAWS. I can't imagine why.

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Numanoid
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Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:31 am

whyterabbyt wrote:The 32-but version doesn't. The 64-bit version does. Kinda obvious really.
OK, so if the OP had Tracktion 64 bit installed he would be able to launch Stank 3?

But he will then not be able to load 32 bit plugs?

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whyterabbyt
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Re: IK Multimedia SampleTank 3.0 warning

Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:37 am

hueynym wrote:For some reason, none of my 12bit custom coded MIPS IRIX plugins seem to work on ANY of my 64bits DAWS. I can't imagine why.
Obvious, really. Your MIPS system has clearly been running in big-endian mode. Total noob mistake, but easy to sort out; if you install Tracktion facing the other way, it should all work fine.
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