KVR Audio

core · Post by **core** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:06 am

Hive is a lovely synth, easy to program and great on the CPU. Julian Ray's Hive Mind showcases a lovely set of sounds that are not geared towards EDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89RbzriYlHw
I don't see the download at Julian's website anymore but you can get 20 or so patches at https://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/hive.html

kurodo · Post by **kurodo** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:23 am

Sylenth is a lovely synth, easy to program and great on the CPU. Joseph Hollo Goldmine showcases a lovely set of sounds that are not geared towards EDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNt5U0gm8js

http://sound.artenuovo.com

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:41 am

This Joseph Hollo sounds for Sylenth are more my cup of tea. Sylenth sounds for me better (only while listening to some of this audio demos). It has a brighter more "energetic" sound and cuts very well through the mix. Amazing stuff (not only for EDM).

core · Post by **core** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:00 pm

kurodo wrote:Sylenth is a lovely synth, easy to program and great on the CPU. Joseph Hollo Goldmine showcases a lovely set of sounds that are not geared towards EDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNt5U0gm8js

http://sound.artenuovo.com

Gotta love Joseph's soundsets!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:07 pm

Hehehe, another one of those

My opinion: Those who prefer Sylenth1 sound-wise would prefer it over Hive even if we added a 4th engine that sounds exactly like Sylenth1. Those who prefer Sylenth1 feature-wise would still prefer it over Hive even if we demonstrated that Hive can do 99% of Sylenth1's factory presets while Sylenth1 can only do 60% or less of Hive's. Those who prefer Sylenth1 design-wise over Hive would still prefer it over Hive if we added a UI skin that looks exactly like Sylenth1. Those who prefer Sylenth1 CPU-wise over Hive would still prefer it over Hive if we added proved that all similar patches use almost exactly the same CPU.

In other words, I don't think there's a need to compare the two for objective matters. It's merely a question of taste and what people are used to.

toothnclaw · Post by **toothnclaw** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:16 pm

Urs wrote:Hehehe, another one of those

My opinion: Those who prefer Sylenth1 sound-wise would prefer it over Hive even if we added a 4th engine that sounds exactly like Sylenth1. Those who prefer Sylenth1 feature-wise would still prefer it over Hive even if we demonstrated that Hive can do 99% of Sylenth1's factory presets while Sylenth1 can only do 60% or less of Hive's. Those who prefer Sylenth1 design-wise over Hive would still prefer it over Hive if we added a UI skin that looks exactly like Sylenth1. Those who prefer Sylenth1 CPU-wise over Hive would still prefer it over Hive if we added proved that all similar patches use almost exactly the same CPU.

In other words, I don't think there's a need to compare the two for objective matters. It's merely a question of taste and what people are used to.

No.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:22 pm

toothnclaw wrote:
Urs wrote:Hehehe, another one of those

My opinion: Those who prefer Sylenth1 sound-wise would prefer it over Hive even if we added a 4th engine that sounds exactly like Sylenth1. Those who prefer Sylenth1 feature-wise would still prefer it over Hive even if we demonstrated that Hive can do 99% of Sylenth1's factory presets while Sylenth1 can only do 60% or less of Hive's. Those who prefer Sylenth1 design-wise over Hive would still prefer it over Hive if we added a UI skin that looks exactly like Sylenth1. Those who prefer Sylenth1 CPU-wise over Hive would still prefer it over Hive if we added proved that all similar patches use almost exactly the same CPU.

In other words, I don't think there's a need to compare the two for objective matters. It's merely a question of taste and what people are used to.
No.

So, you do prefer Sylenth1 over Hive for *something* and you would prefer Hive if we "fixed" that *something*?

fluffy_little_something · Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:26 pm

Listening to those two videos on my headphones demonstrates the different sound character very well, independently of the much better sound design and musical taste/skills displayed in the Sylenth video (the second half of the Sylenth video sounds awesome). The Hive sound just doesn't touch me, it sounds somehow bland to me, no matter how much reverb and other effects they drown it in, like in that video.

Ideally the two synths would fuse, the sound of Sylenth and the features of Hive

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:28 pm

core wrote:
kurodo wrote:Sylenth is a lovely synth, easy to program and great on the CPU. Joseph Hollo Goldmine showcases a lovely set of sounds that are not geared towards EDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNt5U0gm8js

http://sound.artenuovo.com

Gotta love Joseph's soundsets!

Yep!

He also has one for Hive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... QB6qZDttoI

rsp

kev2525 · Post by **kev2525** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:37 pm

Does Hive ever go on sale?

fluffy_little_something · Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:39 pm

Yes, frequently here on KVR

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:53 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Yes, frequently here on KVR

We had total of about 40 license transfers for Hive since it came out. That's less than 1/100th of its user base. If anything, it's an indicator that people are very happy with it.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:53 pm

I agree, there is a difference in the sound design skills. This Joseph Hollo stuff sounds a lot better (also his Hive demo/presets are very good).

fluffy_little_something · Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:59 pm

Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Yes, frequently here on KVR
We had total of about 40 license transfers for Hive since it came out. That's less than 1/1000th of its user base. If anything, it's an indicator that people are very happy with it.

U-he has earned 5m or more with Hive?! Amazing

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:02 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Yes, frequently here on KVR
We had total of about 40 license transfers for Hive since it came out. That's less than 1/1000th of its user base. If anything, it's an indicator that people are very happy with it.
U-he has earned 5m or more with Hive?! Amazing

Ooops, not quite... I fixed it...

(hang over from yesterday's x-mas Dinner, sorry for that)

Anyone here use Hive?